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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Lyle, there are two fighters.

    One guy has a truly epic physical presence. He's extremely tall, heavy and athletic, with exceptional athleticism for such a big guy. Yet since he discovered that his jaw is made out of glass he fights in a style that makes John Ruiz entertaining. He managed his career in a way that made Frank Warren seem like a reckless risk-taker and only due to the tragic decline in the heavyweight division since the 1970s is he even seen as world-class.

    The other fighter has less height and reach than the first guy and naturally weighs considerably less than the first fighter. But his style of fighting is exciting and he has lots of power married to exceptional athleticism, and he's willing to move up a weight class and fight the best fighter in the world at that level straight away.

    Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Haye needs to earn his stripes and answer questions at Heavyweight before he Is called the next anything??....Having talent,nice right hand and attitude is a good starter At the front door..A starter!

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.
    Well said, Mr Baggins. To be honest I thought Haye looked a bit silly getting into Wlads face like that. Haye hasnt fought anyone of note at heavyweight and here he is trying to call the shots. I think Haye is interesting to watch but he should just fight a couple of top 10 guys himself and see if he can come through that unscathed before trying to mess with big Wlad.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.
    It may be that Haye is a rubbish heavyweight but the sum total of his fights at heavy till he retires will be far more worth eatching than the boring safety-first contests that Vlad will inflict on us.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    I can't believe how boxing fans memories are so short. Truly only remembering the last fight someone had. Wlad's ko percentage is nearly 90% and he has fought many of the top guys. He's not the alltime greatest, but clearly a great fighter and he delivers ko's. He's not risky, but he goes for the ko.

    Haye is out of his mind thinking he should go straight from cruiser champ to fighting for heavyweight champ. He just won those titles. It's not like he's a long time champ and has cleaned out the division.

    Haye is trying to make a name for himself, that's ok. But he can't seriously expect to go straight for the title with Wlad.

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    Default Re: David Haye Confronts Klitschko

    Well I'm far from Wlad's biggest fan but it's unfair to say no one wants the Thompson fight. Actually, maybe no one does want it but that doesn't change the fact that Thompson deserves it. He has paid his dues for a long time and has accomplished a lot more then Haye at heavyweight. I think it's more then fair that Thompson gets his shot. I want to see Haye-Wlad as much as the next guy but Thompson has earned this. Ray Austin didn't but Thompson did.

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    I owe you rep amat.


    GREAT POST


    However Ray Austin DID deserve a shot because he drew with Sultan Ibragimov for the IBF title eliminator so it was either Sultan or Ray and Sultan made the decision to go for the WBO title which was then held by Lyakhovich and later by Shannon Briggs both fighters seemed easier to beat than Wladimir Klitschko however they didn't offer up a bigger payday.

    That was Ray Austin's first (and more than likely) LAST title shot and Wlad did what was expected of him.

    It's not WLAD's fault that Sam Peter had trouble with Jameel McCline, it's not WLAD's fault Ruslan Chagaev and Nicolay Valuev refuse to fight him.

    As for Lamon Brewster being "in no shape to be in the ring" well Wlad basically did the same thing he did in the first fight only he had more stamina this go round and fought a superior technical fight...let's not fool ourselves Lamon took a beating in the first fight vs Wladimir

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    Ohh Man.I had not seen that video.Much respect to Haye for tuning up the Cruiser division in strong manner But......What a desperate clown.Wlad does not do much for me as a fighter but the man has done his time and Come back from Adversity In championship fashion.Love him or hate him, He is the man to beat.Did Haye say he was Bigger OR better Than Holyfield??Thats border line blasphemy .Basically Wlad nailed It...

    "You are now in the Heavyweight Division.Get in the ring And do your job,Get in line!".....And I love "what is your weight.........Today"?

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    "...there is line of people.......get in the line and come and fight"


    HAHAHAHA




    Haye might as well have said "Umm.....excuse me, Mr. Klitschko"

    I think the British accent and the Ukranian accent ruins any shit talking

    THIS is shit talking

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWeD5KXx5WI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkjPnH0XhQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgecPysuGB4


    ....Tyson did however usually get gay with his crap talking...."I'm gonna beat your ass, then I'm gonna put you in a dress and dance around you hitting you with my magic wand"

    Those guys could talk crap

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