Hopkins - Calzaghe: Who really won?

[Kel]

Joe won.

Hopkins had four decent rounds but after that just went to steal rounds by his usual 'get a punch off and try to grab' style.

He even pretended to be hurt by low blows twice to get points taken off Joe once he knew he was losing and just got booed by the crowd and thankfully the judges saw right through him too (well two did).

[Mar]

The decision could have gone either way and i wouldn't have been upset. But you don't need a poll to tell ya who really won, the judges did that already and that's really all that matters.

[Pugilistic]

i thought Hopkins won, Joe may of threw more punches but they seemed so ineffective and he never seemed to be landing anything while hopkins was throwing the hard counters that mostly landed. Hopkins did fight dirty and clinch but Calzaghe didn't exactly fight as clean as people make out.


to be real though at the end of the day there is nothing anyone can do to change the decision now.

[1g5a22]

i thought Hopkins won, Joe may of threw more punches but they seemed so ineffective and he never seemed to be landing anything while hopkins was throwing the hard counters that mostly landed. Hopkins did fight dirty and clinch but Calzaghe didn't exactly fight as clean as people make out.


to be real though at the end of the day there is nothing anyone can do to change the decision now.

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

[Pugilistic]

i thought Hopkins won, Joe may of threw more punches but they seemed so ineffective and he never seemed to be landing anything while hopkins was throwing the hard counters that mostly landed. Hopkins did fight dirty and clinch but Calzaghe didn't exactly fight as clean as people make out.


to be real though at the end of the day there is nothing anyone can do to change the decision now.

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

[superheavyrhun]

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

Considering you got a B-Hop sig and me a Joe C one, you won't be surprised to see I had Hopkins taking the first three and either the 6th or the 7th (can't remember without checking) but none of those down the last third of the fight went Hopkins' way IMO.

Fair play though Hopkins did exactly what he's best at and gave Calzaghe a tough rumble, with both men occasionally treading the fine line of the rules, and although it's good for the legacy, I don't think that either man will want to go at it again, and the fairweather fans who crave knockouts and entertaining boxing certainly won't.

[1g5a22]

i thought Hopkins won, Joe may of threw more punches but they seemed so ineffective and he never seemed to be landing anything while hopkins was throwing the hard counters that mostly landed. Hopkins did fight dirty and clinch but Calzaghe didn't exactly fight as clean as people make out.


to be real though at the end of the day there is nothing anyone can do to change the decision now.

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

[Pugilistic]

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.