Hopkins - Calzaghe: Who really won?

[1g5a22]

i thought Hopkins won, Joe may of threw more punches but they seemed so ineffective and he never seemed to be landing anything while hopkins was throwing the hard counters that mostly landed. Hopkins did fight dirty and clinch but Calzaghe didn't exactly fight as clean as people make out.


to be real though at the end of the day there is nothing anyone can do to change the decision now.

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

[Pugilistic]

with all due respect,,you are wrong!!

simply for the fact hopkins did no were near enough to win on the scorecards,,how any judge can score it to hopkins is laughable,dont get me wrong i like both fighters,and if hopkins won i would hold my hands up and say well done,im not biased towards countrys i respect fighters for who they are not were there from,but joe won that fight,its that simple.

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

[HattonTheHammer]

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

giampa and ginza are both experienced judges that have resided over hundreds if not thousands of boxing contests.

Theyve seen more fights than we have had hot dinners - they both just like 90% of the public watching scored the fight to joe by a couple of rounds. It was no surprise to most that the token female judge scored the contest to hopkins.

There were many rounds that could of gone either way and perhaps 1-2 that could of been scored 10-10 rather than 10-9 to JC. But that works both ways.

Ive seen the fight 3 times and every time ive scored it either 115-113 or 115-112 Calzaghe!!

[1g5a22]

i guess you didn't watch rounds 1,2,3,6,7,10, that Hopkins should of won.

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

i apologise for being presumptuous about your nationality,and yes i thought johnson won that fight too,but i know joe won this one!!

we will agree to disagree,

[1g5a22]

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

giampa and ginza are both experienced judges that have resided over hundreds if not thousands of boxing contests.

Theyve seen more fights than we have had hot dinners - they both just like 90% of the public watching scored the fight to joe by a couple of rounds. It was no surprise to most that the token female judge scored the contest to hopkins.

There were many rounds that could of gone either way and perhaps 1-2 that could of been scored 10-10 rather than 10-9 to JC. But that works both ways.

Ive seen the fight 3 times and every time ive scored it either 115-113 or 115-112 Calzaghe!!

agree on the score,id say 115-112

[Pugilistic]

your wrong mate,,simple as!

look it was on your soil with your judges and your referree,listen to foreman and ledderman etc commentating,

if it was so close why were the 2 judges scoring heavily in favour of joe,i really wouldnt give a shit if hopkins won,but iv watched twice and i was right the first time,

joe got into his rhythm(as much as u can do against hopkins) and settled down as the fight went on,yes it was messy and awkward,but it wasnt difficult to score,the delahoya/mayweather was a more controverial fight ,we should still be debating about that rather than this one,if any.

and you gotta give joe his props,,the guy fights in a new weight with no warmups,on foreign soil against a p4p great and does the job.

all i see everywere now are "hopkins was old" "joes overrated" etc etc
u know predictable shit that is totally unoriginal,one bad performance against a fighter who has a knack of making boxers look bad doesnt make you overrated,the kessler fight was a masterclass

joe crossed the pond with his little dad and a rucksack and took on the hopkins hype machine and entourage in full swing with all the "i hired the boxing a team" to beat this chump,and made him look a prat in the process,fact is he did get beat by a white boy,and by the better man.

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

i apologise for being presumptuous about your nationality,and yes i thought johnson won that fight too,but i know joe won this one!!

we will agree to disagree,

fair enough mate agree to disagree

[1g5a22]

just to let you know i ain't american, they ain't my judges and referee, i was born and raised in london and now live in scotland. me = British.

deciding that calzaghe won because of two of the judges scorecards isn't really a good way to decide if the fight wasn't close.

did casamayor beat santa cruz did dawson really beat johnson 116-112?? i didn't see it but the judges gave it to them. so the judges scorecards don't sometimes show you on how a fight is actually going.

i apologise for being presumptuous about your nationality,and yes i thought johnson won that fight too,but i know joe won this one!!

we will agree to disagree,

fair enough mate agree to disagree

good banter though,,we shall meet again.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

i apologise for being presumptuous about your nationality,and yes i thought johnson won that fight too,but i know joe won this one!!

we will agree to disagree,

fair enough mate agree to disagree

good banter though,,we shall meet again.

You're both wrong!

[1g5a22]

fair enough mate agree to disagree

good banter though,,we shall meet again.

You're both wrong!

how so??

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

good banter though,,we shall meet again.

You're both wrong!

how so??

I'm just mssing with you two... You already know where I stand... Joe by 1 pt

[Pugilistic]

You're both wrong!

how so??

I'm just mssing with you two... You already know where I stand... Joe by 1 pt

see that sort of scoring i can agree with, but when people say joe won easily with scores like 116-111 it is just clear stupidity.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

how so??

I'm just mssing with you two... You already know where I stand... Joe by 1 pt

see that sort of scoring i can agree with, but when people say joe won easily with scores like 116-111 it is just clear stupidity.

I agree. Not even a calzaghe fan but I can be unbias

[Pugilistic]

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