To be honest basketball is a good'n..
real fast pace.. nothing too long or drawn out.. you can just watch it back and forth y'know.. S'easy when your off you box..
its like it just keeps starting over again..Lol..
To be honest basketball is a good'n..
real fast pace.. nothing too long or drawn out.. you can just watch it back and forth y'know.. S'easy when your off you box..
its like it just keeps starting over again..Lol..
Immortal Technique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y5KAaercTI
Old school hoops is the best to watch...can't beat the Pistol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9JLJunoxlc
Last edited by El Kabong; 05-02-2008 at 06:24 PM.
Pistol Pete had moves at LSU that most would still kill for today. Rafer Alston pulled that fake behind the back agaisnt the Knicks and everyone went crazy because it was Skip To My Lou. Marovich pulled controlled the break with better ball handling skills then anyone in history. I would kill to see him play in college today.
But today's game of basketball is great. I know everyone has affection for the old school but the players today are so ridiculously good that it's not even funny. Look at Joe Johnson in Atlanta, he has been electric these playoffs and imagine if Pheonix had him, he looks like one of the best players in the game. I know Paul and Howard get the headlines but Johnson is right there in the break out star category.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vhGeQWOHwHQCheck out those drives to the lane, he is slicing through the defense in the paint with 4 other guys against the best defensive team in basketball and he's tearing them up. I don't know why they don't run more isos with Johnson because there is no single player that can guard him if he has that mid range jumpshot working. Hopefully tonight they will cut out the high ball screens that just don't work versus Boston because they can defend from the inside out and give him the top of the court to himself, spread it out watch him work his magic. And check out that crossover, nasty.
And of course Lebron James the must watch of all must watches in the sports world. When he puts his mind to it, his shoulder down going to the rim he is one of the greatest players ever to step on a court. And pair that with the fact that he can dribble short and hit a jumper from anywhere over anyone is ridiculous. Kobe is the best player in the game but when he is in the zone, nobody is better or more exciting then Lebron.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d1Px-jPm_TU
That was the single greatest take over I have ever seen in any sport. Had to get a broom and dustpan to pick my jaw up off the floor when he decided to do that. Unbelievable I wish I could transcribe that commentary onto my fist and plant it on the nose of Skip Bayless who talks down on Lebron every chance he gets.
Last edited by amat; 05-02-2008 at 10:54 PM.
Oh there are great players today but I just can't follow the NBA anymore....it's not the same without Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Bird, Johnson, etc.
It's said that after someone tracked Marovich's shots and he averaged 44.5 points a game for 3 years at LSU well that was without a 3-point line and if he had one he would have averaged 57 points a game because they say he averaged 12 made FG's from 3-point distance
While those players had star power and personality, I think the talent pool is constantly getting better in the NBA and I'd say the level at which the game is being played now is greater then it was in the 80's or 90's. And I've tried to watch as much basketball from the past as I can, even downloaded the entire 70 win Chicago Bulls season recently and watched almost all of it.
I think Lebron, Kobe, Garnett, Paul, Howard, Nash, Dirk, Derron Williams, McGrady, Baron ect. I would pit that against any talent pool and take my chances. Maybe not the dominating star power of the Showtime Lakers or the Bad Boys but a great era right now no doubt.
But the point guard is a timeless position in sports and most every great point guard in the history of the sport will have been a great point guard in no matter what era they played. There are some great Pistol Pete documentaries out there.
Last edited by Andre; 05-03-2008 at 01:12 AM.
Oh I beg to differ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2ELec-Slg
The 1992 ORIGINAL Dream Team is the greatest team ever created in the history of SPORT....not just basketball but SPORT...it doesn't matter what sport it's just the greatest talent ever assembled it was like the freaking Justice League of sport
Coach: Chuck Daly of the Detroit Pistons[8]
- Charles Barkley of the Phoenix Suns
- Larry Bird of the Boston Celtics
- Clyde Drexler of the Portland Trail Blazers
- Patrick Ewing of the New York Knicks
- Earvin "Magic" Johnson of the Los Angeles Lakers
- Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls
- Christian Laettner of Duke University
- Karl Malone of the Utah Jazz
- Chris Mullin of the Golden State Warriors
- Scottie Pippen of the Chicago Bulls
- David Robinson of the San Antonio Spurs
- John Stockton of the Utah Jazz
The only players not named on the NBA's 50 Greatest list were Laettner and Mullin.
The closest game they had was 117-85 vs Croatia.
OK, now the Dream Team was amazing for a couple reasons. Firstly, international basketball was at nowhere near the level of the USA and most professional European players didn't compete. They had no competition but were the greatest team ever assembled imo.
However, when you look at all those players individually and they by no means blow away the talent there is today. Take the Dream Team, and tell me they are more talented then any players of today. Off talent not accomplishments, I think today stacks up just as well.
At power forward, I would take Garnett over Barkley. Better defensively, grabs just as many rebounds and scores more with range all the way back to the three point line.
Bird I will give you there is no better shot ever in basketball and at the 3 spot there is no better spot shooter in the NBA today. Give him a spot to the court, he'll stop on it and make a shot. Nobody in basketball possesses that today.
Drexler, Lebron. It's a simple choice, Lebron is essentially Clyde Drexler they are the same build at the 2 guard but obviously the advantage is Lebron. He could be the most talented player in the history of basketball. Go a little deeper, Tracy McGrady has to be mentioned as greater also.
Dwight Howard at center is going to be one of the best centers in the history of basketball imo and in the same breath as Ewing in terms of accomplishments. The most athletic center there has ever been along with Stoudamire. Garnett played center sometimes in Minnesota and was in the breath to.
Magic and Michael, Kobe and Lebron. It's like splitting hairs really. All are clearly the best players on the court at all times, all are just so far head and shoulders above the rest that it's hard to compare. Obviously Magic and Michael accomplished quadruple what both of these two combined have done but they both have time. I would love to see this 2 on 2, it's splitting hairs though they are maybe the 4 best players in the history of basketball in terms of talent at the shooting guard position with both Magic and Lebron essentially running their teams point guard position. Not as much for Lebron but he might as well be the teams point guard and pretty much is in the playoffs.
After that, look at the great point guards today Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Baron Davis, Tony Parker all are great. I would take Paul over any point guard in NBA history if I had to pick them as rookies.
Nobody mentioned the good ole fashion straight fukcing porno yet.
amat, we're talking about Jordan in his PRIME...Malone in his PRIME...Barkley in his PRIME. Johnson and Bird were the only older guys out there and they were still great players even then.
I'll give it to you Howard, Paul, Nash, Davis....those guys are all going to be great BUT bar Lattner and Mullin all of Team USA was in the NBA's top 50 players of all time....that is ridiculous.
Sure the international basketball wasn't as good as it is today but dude it wouldn't have mattered because all those guys knew how to win AS A TEAM and that's where the NBA today falls short. Do you think Jordan couldn't have dropped 80 on the RaptorsI know for damn sure he could have done that but he was a TEAM player and it wasn't always all about him.
Plus those guys were bad ass....Charles Barkley elbowing some guy from another team in the chest while USA is up by like 50 points....they weren't just going to win, they were going to make those other teams look as bad as possible.
Karl Malone and Charles Barkley aside from Kevin McHale are probably the best power forwards to ever play the game. I will say that KG seems to have SOME of the attitude that Chuck played with.
And they ALL could play defense
Hey Mullin should be a hall of famer I wouldn't say bar Mullin. And I know that team is great but you can't convince me that Jordan was anymore talented in his prime then Kobe or Lebron are. He accomplished more and had some strengths where they have weaknesses and likewise but the talent level in the NBA is what I'm talking about. Of course they haven't accomplished what those guys did but match up with them talent wise. And I'm talking about the NBA.
I agree about them not being able to play as a team but I blame that on Larry Brown, I think under Coach K and 2 years together that the Olympic team this year will take gold in a very competitive games.
And Kobe had to go for 81 because last year the Lakers sucked. Plain and simple, they were Kobe Bryant with a fourth or fifth scoring option. No help for Kobe on that team last year and when he got help we now see the unselfish play and the more confidence in his teammates. I remember watching a Lakers game last year and it was early in the year and I knew the Lakers would be in trouble if Kobe had to kick out to Jordan Farmar all year.
Last edited by amat; 05-03-2008 at 05:15 PM.
We'll just have to agree to disagree....the Dream Team was the greatest team ever put together.
Here's what I would put out for the Olympics:
C: Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan, Chris Bosh
PF: Elton Brand, Amare Stoudamire
SF: Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony
SG: Kobe Bryant, Michael Redd, Dwayne Wade
PG: Chris Paul, Deron Williams
I can't remember the name of it but on Spike they have some Japanese show where people do these outrageous stuns at obstacle courses...funny as shit...Not really a sport but all the same
Hidden Content IN CASE THEY ALL FORGOT WHAT REAL HEAVYWEIGHT POWER WAS!!!
Probably college football, huge Alabama fan and I get a bit too tense and angry during the games. Even had a period where I thought the team's performance was influenced by whether I was sitting down or standing up.It seemed to work for a while.
So its best that I relax a bit more so that helps.
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