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    Default Re: Powerful Jab- Is this an illusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Donny, It all depends where the back foot is in relation to the shoulder for drive and delivery. Also movement after the punch being in balance for where you want to be. One senario to get the idea is kicking a ball as hard as you can, when youve found the best way to drive the ball . Think where the back foot is in the relation to the shoulder for drive, thats where it should be after the jab

    Somehow I've developed the habit of throwing my jab with my arm alone - not putting the shoulder into it. I think i've had this habit for a while but I have only just realized it because someone pointed it out to me on the weekend.

    I know I don't put my body into my right cross enough because it's been annoying me for ages - now I'm thinking I haven't been doing it because my left shoulder is not foreward enough at the end of the jab to pull it back enough for a hard cross.

    Could this all be to do with me being too heavy on my front foot Scrap or is it something else entirely?
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    You don't need to put all your weight on your back foot to have more power but having an even distribution of weight allows for more weight to be transfered which in turn allows for a more powerful punch.

    Step into your jab and turn your shoulders and hips....it's good to have more that just 1 type of jab a fast one, a pawing/measuring one, and a powerful one you can change them up and confuse your opponent.


    The best way to throw the 1-2 is with a quick jab using the momentum of the jab coming back to a defensive position to add more power to the cross. That is created by your core muscles in your back and abs, your feet and legs, and your shoulders.


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    Its a biomechanical fact, its all where the head is its simple. If the heads not where it should be then the rest of the body isnt. That applies to any Sport .
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    If it's so simple why do so many people struggle with it then Scrap.
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    To be qiute simple Sharla, not many people understand the concept thats the truth. Ive been studying the idea for years, trying to find out why as regards movement. Ive had a good career doing what I did, but knew there was something missing in mine and everybodys concept. I remember when I was talking to three University Lecturers who later told me they thought I was completely Bonkers. Now they are amongst my best freinds who I coach. Its the bodys job to keep the stuff between the ears in its proper alinement for better perception of Feel.
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    This possibly has nothing to do with what you're getting at Scrap but I've recently realized that it's easier for me to get my body into the punch if my head and chin is not coming forward too much.

    It seems sticking my chin out like that prevents me from having an axis to rotate my body around.

    I'm not sure why I got into sticking my head forward in the first place - maybe trying to put my body into the punch without pivoting and trying to sort of strain or pull it there with my head - I was banned from pivoting for a while but had a lot more power before that.

    Perhaps that's not it though? Perhaps there's some other common cause of people sticking their heads and chins out too far in front of them?
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    i have a insane jab and left hook... the reason is im naturaly left handed, but i stand orthodox. .

    but my right hook is weak :-(
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    You're not really going to need a right hook for anything unless you have a guy hurt, against the ropes, or you want to throw a bomb on the break.


    I'd take a solid jab over any punch out there, you can win on the jab alone and it doesn't have to be all that powerful.

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    Default Re: Powerful Jab- Is this an illusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    You're not really going to need a right hook for anything unless you have a guy hurt, against the ropes, or you want to throw a bomb on the break.


    I'd take a solid jab over any punch out there, you can win on the jab alone and it doesn't have to be all that powerful.

    thats good to know... cuz a month ago with i started boxing i noticed i favor my jab and left hook... i know i need to work on my cross, but i hae been trying to get my right hook up to, guess i dont have to worry about it. my left hook and jab rattle my whole garage when i hit the bag though . im sure its no were near you guys as far as speed in my combos but eventuly it will be.

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    ...it's a fun punch to land ...no doubt but the right hook is not often used. You're better off working on the uppercut which is also a difficult punche to land

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    Default Re: Powerful Jab- Is this an illusion?

    Shifting weight in behind the movment can even be done many ways:
    with the rear heel comming up slightly or both feet moving into postion at the time of the landing, (a slight body lean ! but its not recomended at all ;unless your going over the top outside of someones lead arm so you are safe for that second), or by a very slight hip flex as you shift sit on the punch. A bit of all (except the lean) is effective and explosive.
    Vertical fist and horizontal fist have differing effects on all of the movments too, one creates a more upright alighnment of the head but only slightly maybe a 1/2 inch. Vertical fist or angled fist so your elbow is down : if in the opposite stance to your opponent.. his left jab countered by your right jab vertical over the top of it withthe above footwork also gets you out of the way of his and puts more power into yours as well as deflecting his.
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