Roy Jones Jr Vs. Joe Calzaghe??

[p4pking]

I mean if you can name one advantage Joe would have going into the fight, I'm all ears.

CLEAN BLOODSTREAM,HATES HIPHOP AND U CANT KNOCK HIM OUT(THERES 3)!!

-just as fast
-solid chin
-able to adapt to any style
-would draw jones into his fight and offset the theatrics



and if all else fails enzo would suplex him

Yea, he has a good chin. Other then that, about the kind of post I expected from a fanboy who can't see past a fighters nationality. How do you know he can adapt to any style? Has he fought Roy Jones clone in some underground fight somewhere? And he wasn't as fast as Roy Jones. Calzaghe has very fast hands, you could argue that he throws as many punches as quickly as Roy did, but he generates nowhere near the power and leverage Jones would get on punches that he was able to get off basically at the same speed as Joe. The difference is looking at the way they are thrown and the effect they had on people. Roy Jones could knock people clean out at SMW. Aside from of course Calzaghe, who apparently CANNOT BE Ko'ed. BUT, you forgot to consider that Roy Jones CAN'T lose to people from the UK. I mean in his entire amatuer and pro careers, he has never ONCE lost to an Englishman, not to mention a Welshman. I don't know how you could pick Calzaghe after knowing that. I didn't realize Joe hated Hip Hop though. That truly might be the X factor

[killersheep]

Hopkins was able to land when he wanted to against Calzaghe, but he didn't have the output to sway the judges. RJJ would be throwing and landing more, end of. RJJ wide UD (except this is in Joe's home turf, so anything can happen if it gets left in the hands of the judges.)

[Fenster]

Hopkins was able to land when he wanted to against Calzaghe, but he didn't have the output to sway the judges. RJJ would be throwing and landing more, end of. RJJ wide UD (except this is in Joe's home turf, so anything can happen if it gets left in the hands of the judges.)

Do you mean now as opposed to prime? Seeing as you like compiling odds - how would you price it up?

[Fenster]

Prime Roy would have slaughtered Calzaghe. Fact.

[1g5a22]

Prime Roy would have slaughtered Calzaghe. Fact.

my big brother would have slaughterd me 7 years ago,,now i can paste him silly,FACT.

your point is?

[Fenster]

Prime Roy would have slaughtered Calzaghe. Fact.

my big brother would have slaughterd me 7 years ago,,now i can paste him silly,FACT.

your point is?

Prime Roy would have beaten Joe.

Is that OK?

[1g5a22]

Prime Roy would have slaughtered Calzaghe. Fact.

my big brother would have slaughterd me 7 years ago,,now i can paste him silly,FACT.

your point is?

Prime Roy would have beaten Joe.

Is that OK?

thats fine.

[southakron314]

Prime Roy would have slaughtered Calzaghe. Fact.

So would have Toney.

[killersheep]

Hopkins was able to land when he wanted to against Calzaghe, but he didn't have the output to sway the judges. RJJ would be throwing and landing more, end of. RJJ wide UD (except this is in Joe's home turf, so anything can happen if it gets left in the hands of the judges.)

Do you mean now as opposed to prime? Seeing as you like compiling odds - how would you price it up?

I wouldn't have this out of the park odds, but I would have the following

RJJ = -200 = 1/2
Calzaghe = +175 = 7/4

I would move these as I see training sessions etc.

As for prime I would have had

RJJ = -500 = 1/5
Calzaghe = +400 = 4/1

somewhere in that neighborhood.

[Fenster]

Hopkins was able to land when he wanted to against Calzaghe, but he didn't have the output to sway the judges. RJJ would be throwing and landing more, end of. RJJ wide UD (except this is in Joe's home turf, so anything can happen if it gets left in the hands of the judges.)

Do you mean now as opposed to prime? Seeing as you like compiling odds - how would you price it up?

I wouldn't have this out of the park odds, but I would have the following

RJJ = -200 = 1/2
Calzaghe = +175 = 7/4

I would move these as I see training sessions etc.

As for prime I would have had

RJJ = -500 = 1/5
Calzaghe = +400 = 4/1

somewhere in that neighborhood.

I agree with your prime odds.

But the current odds, should the fight happen, will most certainly be the OPPOSITE of how you have it.

I think Roy will be worth a bet as underdog.

[BIG H]

I think it's a 'pickem' - I really don't see JC walking through Jones even now!!

[1g5a22]

I think it's a 'pickem' - I really don't see JC walking through Jones even now!!

no he wont walk through him,he will walk over him.

[killersheep]

Do you mean now as opposed to prime? Seeing as you like compiling odds - how would you price it up?

I wouldn't have this out of the park odds, but I would have the following

RJJ = -200 = 1/2
Calzaghe = +175 = 7/4

I would move these as I see training sessions etc.

As for prime I would have had

RJJ = -500 = 1/5
Calzaghe = +400 = 4/1

somewhere in that neighborhood.

I agree with your prime odds.

But the current odds, should the fight happen, will most certainly be the OPPOSITE of how you have it.

I think Roy will be worth a bet as underdog.

You could certainly make a case for making the odds opposite, however, what I'm looking at now is this the biggest guy calzaghe will have ever faced, and has the ability to land inside Joe's flurries, that's how I see it.
I know most of the UK bookies have it
Joe = -350 = 2/7
RJJ = +250 = 5/2

I gotta call it as I see it though. The big question here is can Joe fight going backwards, no way he pushes back Jones.

[JT Rock]

Anyway amoungst all the Bullshit, I for one am excited about this fight and see it being very competitive now, but a landslide for Jones back in the day

[1g5a22]

I mean if you can name one advantage Joe would have going into the fight, I'm all ears.

CLEAN BLOODSTREAM,HATES HIPHOP AND U CANT KNOCK HIM OUT(THERES 3)!!

-just as fast
-solid chin
-able to adapt to any style
-would draw jones into his fight and offset the theatrics



and if all else fails enzo would suplex him

Yea, he has a good chin. Other then that, about the kind of post I expected from a fanboy who can't see past a fighters nationality. How do you know he can adapt to any style? Has he fought Roy Jones clone in some underground fight somewhere? And he wasn't as fast as Roy Jones. Calzaghe has very fast hands, you could argue that he throws as many punches as quickly as Roy did, but he generates nowhere near the power and leverage Jones would get on punches that he was able to get off basically at the same speed as Joe. The difference is looking at the way they are thrown and the effect they had on people. Roy Jones could knock people clean out at SMW. Aside from of course Calzaghe, who apparently CANNOT BE Ko'ed. BUT, you forgot to consider that Roy Jones CAN'T lose to people from the UK. I mean in his entire amatuer and pro careers, he has never ONCE lost to an Englishman, not to mention a Welshman. I don't know how you could pick Calzaghe after knowing that. I didn't realize Joe hated Hip Hop though. That truly might be the X factor

calm down,stop taking it all so personal,and i never realised he fought a load of people from the uk,,lol!

this prime for prime shit is bullshit,theres only a couple of years between them,anthony hanshaw ring any bells,joe beats the top dogs in the SMW and LHW,and jones beasts up a welterweight(tito)


and tarver and johnson never found him such a beast(quite the opposite in fact)and leave nationality out of it,,we really dont want to go down that route at the minute do we,lol!