My Greatest Boxers Of All Time(some Of U Wont Like This)!

[1g5a22]

Thing is mate (for example) how many Jim Jeffries fights you seen to make your judgement of him as the greatest ever heavyweight??

Exactly, and very good point. I cant understand people ranking guys who they maybe saw 1 or 2 fights of. You can't rank a guy from Newspaper clippings. If you do, Roy Jones would be p4p the greatest of all time.

As true as this is, neither of you have seen probably more then 3 or 4 between you so you can't discredit it either... Ya know?

You're kind doing what he is... In reverse

you raise a valid point

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Exactly, and very good point. I cant understand people ranking guys who they maybe saw 1 or 2 fights of. You can't rank a guy from Newspaper clippings. If you do, Roy Jones would be p4p the greatest of all time.

As true as this is, neither of you have seen probably more then 3 or 4 between you so you can't discredit it either... Ya know?

You're kind doing what he is... In reverse

you raise a valid point

I have Dempsy in my top 10 Heavys of all time and I've seen but 7 of his fights... He's still staying in my top 10.

Actually, BIGH and Beanflicker... Is Jack Johnson in your top heavys? How many of his fights have you seen?

[1g5a22]

As true as this is, neither of you have seen probably more then 3 or 4 between you so you can't discredit it either... Ya know?

You're kind doing what he is... In reverse

you raise a valid point

I have Dempsy in my top 10 Heavys of all time and I've seen but 7 of his fights... He's still staying in my top 10.

your talking to the wrong man mate,i edited the thread

dempsey is my favourite heavyweight of all time though.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

you raise a valid point

I have Dempsy in my top 10 Heavys of all time and I've seen but 7 of his fights... He's still staying in my top 10.

your talking to the wrong man mate,i edited the thread

dempsey is my favourite heavyweight of all time though.

No, that wasn't directed towards you... I'm on your side...

I was saying you can tell alot about style power speed and chin by only seeing 2, 3 or 4 fights so if thats where you place guys thats where you place um...

My point was that most people have Jack Johnson in there top ten...

I garantee most people on here have not seen more then 2 or 3 of his fights TOPS!

So don't worry bout them

[1g5a22]

I have Dempsy in my top 10 Heavys of all time and I've seen but 7 of his fights... He's still staying in my top 10.

your talking to the wrong man mate,i edited the thread

dempsey is my favourite heavyweight of all time though.

No, that wasn't directed towards you... I'm on your side...

I was saying you can tell alot about style power speed and chin by only seeing 2, 3 or 4 fights so if thats where you place guys thats where you place um...

My point was that most people have Jack Johnson in there top ten...

I garantee most people on here have not seen more then 2 or 3 of his fights TOPS!

So don't worry bout them

a lot of people who put guys like johnson in there lists probably have never watched a fight of his,id rather make my own oppinions like my dad does, each to there own.

[DaxxKahn]

I don't know mate those list are a bit off even for old timer's... but I guess it is all opinion but I really don't see it?....Jefferies over Johnson?...Johnson beat Jim silly and has wins over Sam McVea, Ketchal, Tommy Burns, Jack O'Brien, Langford, and was greatly skilled...And I have seen just about ever bit of Footage on Johnson available...

I am glad to see Bob Fitzimmons on the list though...I will be honest it is hard to decide exactly what weight class Bob belongs in but it is not MW...though he personally was a MW in natural size give or take a few pounds he fought above...And he has a hell of a resume considering most his big wins are all over bigger men...

It is interesting to say the least

[Syntax Error]

Just stumbled across the old thread & it is one of the most interesting lists thet the OP has compiled.

Whilst I have a different opinion to the OP, I think his list is more then worthy of discussion.

[blueheart]

geez i dont even know that many weight classes to make my own list

[erics44]

you are wrong as the greatest hw of all time is frank bruno

[TitoFan]

Ahh... an old, but yet worthless thread.

When I saw Carlos Zarate as the #6 bantamweight, with no mention of Wilfredo Gomez, or Salvador Sanchez, for that matter.... and when I saw no mention of Wilfredo Benitez anywhere on the lists....

Well... I stopped reading.

[aceofspades]

I just looked at your lists, and it's good to see someone with a historical perspective on Boxing. My view is that class is class in any era, and fighters like Duran, Hagler and Leonard would be top-notchers in the fifties or the present day.
I also agree that modern fighters are not necessarily better technically than earlier fighters. For example, was Joe Frazier's technique lacking compared to today's Heavyweights? Hardly! He was certainly super fit, and fit for purpose, too.
I think the only way to rate fighters is to take all things into account, and I realise that this is a very hard thing to do. I lean towards the fighters of the time period from the forties to the seventies, but would include notable fighters from earlier and later times. For instance, I think Mayweather is an all time great, as was Azumah Nelson.
All in all, a great debate.

[Deanrw]

No Hagler or Monzon at Middleweight? For Shame!!hehe

I Like Big H's list much better, Although I think Mayweather deserves a spot on the all time lightweight list. He was a monster at lightweight.

[Beanflicker]

No Hagler or Monzon at Middleweight? For Shame!!hehe.

Yeah thats really bad IMO. Those are the top 2 MWs EVER imo. And why does Jones get in on the top 10 MWs? Jones is an ATG no doubt but Middleweight isn't exactly the weight everyone remembers him at

[Beanflicker]

I don't want to sound like I'm shitting on your list btw, everyone is entitled to their opinions and its differing opinions that makes for interesting discussion.

[BIG H]

As true as this is, neither of you have seen probably more then 3 or 4 between you so you can't discredit it either... Ya know?

You're kind doing what he is... In reverse

you raise a valid point

I have Dempsy in my top 10 Heavys of all time and I've seen but 7 of his fights... He's still staying in my top 10.

Actually, BIGH and Beanflicker... Is Jack Johnson in your top heavys? How many of his fights have you seen?

Probably not top ten (although being honest I may have at some time) so I get what you are trying to say