Do people on here still see what HBO tells them to

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

OK, case and point... The most recent fight ODLH Forbes...

The commentators kept saying that it's a Floyd Sr. Signature to have guys blocking shots with their gloves and parrying... And how well Oscar was doing this.

Oscar for most of the fight had his hands low and was taking needless pecking jabs from Forbes.

He was not blocking them THAT well... He looked ok and all but fukin aye... They made it sound like he was unhittable as Forbes although being whitwashed was landing punches...

Not to mention a Lamley's phantom punshes "Huge right hook"

**repay: The punch wizzes by the other guys head like 3 inches away**

[The Fightfan]

HBO commentaters are the best at what they do,but sometime I feel Jim Lampley is just so damn biased.When I rewatch the fight the next day I actually turn off the sound the next day and not buy into who is sucking who off. I really don't like him,to me Lampley is a fraud and an asshole.The guy I agree with the most is probably the guy I dislike the most in Max Kellerman.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

HBO commentaters are the best at what they do,but sometime I feel Jim Lampley is just so damn biased.When I rewatch the fight the next day I actually turn off the sound the next day and not buy into who is sucking who off. I really don't like him,to me Lampley is a fraud and an asshole.The guy I agree with the most is probably the guy I dislike the most in Max Kellerman.

Yeah, just don't let Max do any scoring... He'll have 10-7 rounds without Knockdowns and 4 rounds in a fight even

[HattonTheHammer]

You have to bare with me guys, im a brit who apart from the odd online stream has never actually seen a fight via HBO.

We do however get endless updates via skysports, setanta, bbc etc on how HBO are scoring the contests: seems to be a growing trend of them opting to award rounds to those that throw the most punches rather than the more effective ones.

I for one enjoy listening to what lederman has to say. The guy was scoring contests while most of us were still in nappies(diapers for you americans).

[rene69]

The best HBO nut job i ever heard was Chavez/Taylor 1. Lampley, Merchant & Leonard would have blown Taylor under the ring if he had won!

[p4pking]

You have to bare with me guys, im a brit who apart from the odd online stream has never actually seen a fight via HBO.

We do however get endless updates via skysports, setanta, bbc etc on how HBO are scoring the contests: seems to be a growing trend of them opting to award rounds to those that throw the most punches rather than the more effective ones.

I for one enjoy listening to what lederman has to say. The guy was scoring contests while most of us were still in nappies(diapers for you americans).

Lederman no doubt has a vast knowledge of the sport, but I think recently he is scoring fights based on what HE is told to look for. Seems to me at least he's been giving rounds to the agressor ruthlessly in almost any big fights I can remember watching recently. I'm sure it's a lot of politics and he doesn't have much choice. But it is a bit fishy when he'll score some rounds that seem clearly inane just when it happens to even up the fight a little.

[Bx730NY]

The only guy on HBO whos job is secure is Jim Lampley because he is the ultimate at praising the house fighter. He consistently calls phantom punches great shots and HBO fighters could do no wrong in his eyes.

Larry Merchant is being pushed out the door for speaking his mind and telling it like it is. This guy has been doing it for years and should be commended for it, not fired.

Manny Steward is not as good a trainer as he is a commentator. His fighters have many more flaws than his comments. I would imagine Taeth not liking him because he exposes floyd for the fraud that he is. All in all, he's a smart man.

Max is pretty good but he tries to score too many points acting like he knows all there is to know about fighters from years past. I like him but he's still in the process of becoming the guy he's gonna be so we'll see down the line.

[Violent Demise]

Lederman is the one who's a complete idiot. His scorecards are garbage. The way he was sucking Hatton's dick and giving him bullshitt rounds against Mayweather was a disgrace. His Hopkins-Calzaghe card was also a joke. And if I remember correctly his dumbass had Paul Williams beating Quintana. The fool needs to be fired immediately. His daughter scores a better fight

[amat]

Well first off, no need to be so confrontational. I don't think anybody is so swayed by HBO's commentary and usually the arguments on here don't see it the same as HBO. Let me say that about the forum, also half the people here don't even watch the fight on HBO they watch it on Sky or Setanta.

I thought their assessment of DLH was garbage, I thought that he looked like an aging man in the ring and was not nearly as impressed as HBO. I think Kellerman and Lennox are a great team no matter who else they have with them. I think they are typically the most spot on people on TV along with the Showtime crew.

[Beanflicker]

Not to mention a Lamley's phantom punshes "Huge right hook"

**repay: The punch wizzes by the other guys head like 3 inches away**

Oh shit, can you remember DLH/Whitaker?

(DLH throws one of his flashy combos in which every punch misses)

LAMPLEY:: AND A HUGE COMBINATION BY DLH TO CLOSE OUT THE ROUND!!!

Lampley has always had a hard on for DLH, I remember when he cried tears of joy when he beat Vargas

[DatsiK]

Sky Sports commentators in the UK are just as bad. When Mayweather lost his balance for a split second in the 2nd ?? round against hatton the commentators were screaming " HATTON HAS HIM! FLOYD IS ALL OVER THE PLACE ".

[Unknowndonor]

I remember a thread that was funny awhile back about the HBO guys, and if I'm not mistaken, was before Oscar-Floyd 1. Anyway, the thread stated-Which would be said 1st-

1- Sizzling left hook from Jim Lampley
2-Steward talking about a fighters amatuer background
3- Cant quite remember, but I think it was Merchant calling a fighter by the wrong name.

The HBO guys are way off sometimes, but I think it's hilarious, and adds entertainment. I will admit, "left hook from De La Hoya", that clearly missed, gets old after awhile, but I watch the fight, and judge for myself. In their defense, It would be hard, commentating on that many fights, and not getting caught up in a few, and almost cheering for your favorite.