Do people on here still see what HBO tells them to

[The Fightfan]

HBO commentaters are the best at what they do,but sometime I feel Jim Lampley is just so damn biased.When I rewatch the fight the next day I actually turn off the sound the next day and not buy into who is sucking who off. I really don't like him,to me Lampley is a fraud and an asshole.The guy I agree with the most is probably the guy I dislike the most in Max Kellerman.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

HBO commentaters are the best at what they do,but sometime I feel Jim Lampley is just so damn biased.When I rewatch the fight the next day I actually turn off the sound the next day and not buy into who is sucking who off. I really don't like him,to me Lampley is a fraud and an asshole.The guy I agree with the most is probably the guy I dislike the most in Max Kellerman.

Yeah, just don't let Max do any scoring... He'll have 10-7 rounds without Knockdowns and 4 rounds in a fight even

[HattonTheHammer]

You have to bare with me guys, im a brit who apart from the odd online stream has never actually seen a fight via HBO.

We do however get endless updates via skysports, setanta, bbc etc on how HBO are scoring the contests: seems to be a growing trend of them opting to award rounds to those that throw the most punches rather than the more effective ones.

I for one enjoy listening to what lederman has to say. The guy was scoring contests while most of us were still in nappies(diapers for you americans).

[rene69]

The best HBO nut job i ever heard was Chavez/Taylor 1. Lampley, Merchant & Leonard would have blown Taylor under the ring if he had won!

[p4pking]

You have to bare with me guys, im a brit who apart from the odd online stream has never actually seen a fight via HBO.

We do however get endless updates via skysports, setanta, bbc etc on how HBO are scoring the contests: seems to be a growing trend of them opting to award rounds to those that throw the most punches rather than the more effective ones.

I for one enjoy listening to what lederman has to say. The guy was scoring contests while most of us were still in nappies(diapers for you americans).

Lederman no doubt has a vast knowledge of the sport, but I think recently he is scoring fights based on what HE is told to look for. Seems to me at least he's been giving rounds to the agressor ruthlessly in almost any big fights I can remember watching recently. I'm sure it's a lot of politics and he doesn't have much choice. But it is a bit fishy when he'll score some rounds that seem clearly inane just when it happens to even up the fight a little.

[Bx730NY]

The only guy on HBO whos job is secure is Jim Lampley because he is the ultimate at praising the house fighter. He consistently calls phantom punches great shots and HBO fighters could do no wrong in his eyes.

Larry Merchant is being pushed out the door for speaking his mind and telling it like it is. This guy has been doing it for years and should be commended for it, not fired.

Manny Steward is not as good a trainer as he is a commentator. His fighters have many more flaws than his comments. I would imagine Taeth not liking him because he exposes floyd for the fraud that he is. All in all, he's a smart man.

Max is pretty good but he tries to score too many points acting like he knows all there is to know about fighters from years past. I like him but he's still in the process of becoming the guy he's gonna be so we'll see down the line.

[Violent Demise]

Lederman is the one who's a complete idiot. His scorecards are garbage. The way he was sucking Hatton's dick and giving him bullshitt rounds against Mayweather was a disgrace. His Hopkins-Calzaghe card was also a joke. And if I remember correctly his dumbass had Paul Williams beating Quintana. The fool needs to be fired immediately. His daughter scores a better fight

[amat]

Well first off, no need to be so confrontational. I don't think anybody is so swayed by HBO's commentary and usually the arguments on here don't see it the same as HBO. Let me say that about the forum, also half the people here don't even watch the fight on HBO they watch it on Sky or Setanta.

I thought their assessment of DLH was garbage, I thought that he looked like an aging man in the ring and was not nearly as impressed as HBO. I think Kellerman and Lennox are a great team no matter who else they have with them. I think they are typically the most spot on people on TV along with the Showtime crew.