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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Just for the record, he himself did not quit against ODLH, his corner stopped it because he had a real bad cut inside his mouth and was swallowing too much blood. He even got pissed at Merchant when Larry implied he quit, he was livid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGwt9pCbtzg
    Look at my avatar and that will well you how much of a Chavez fan i am .... but he quit in the 2nd Delahoya fight. He did the same in the 2nd Randall fight.
    It looked to me like he was saying no to the corner, now you could take that as "no I don't wan't to continue", or "no I don't want you to stop it." I'll take JCC's word though and disagree with you.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    The second Randall fight I'm not gonna defend because it looked to me like he just took the easy way out hoping he was up on points.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
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    Just for the record, he himself did not quit against ODLH, his corner stopped it because he had a real bad cut inside his mouth and was swallowing too much blood. He even got pissed at Merchant when Larry implied he quit, he was livid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGwt9pCbtzg
    Look at my avatar and that will well you how much of a Chavez fan i am .... but he quit in the 2nd Delahoya fight. He did the same in the 2nd Randall fight.
    It looked to me like he was saying no to the corner, now you could take that as "no I don't wan't to continue", or "no I don't want you to stop it." I'll take JCC's word though and disagree with you.
    Well... i read Chavez's lips and body language and both said "no mas". I also speak spanish and could hear his corner telling him that the cut was not bad. He quit plain and simple, and i also agree with someone on here who said that he took the easy way out in the 2nd Randall fight

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    If your going by body language, did you not see him make a little surge towards the end of that round? Thats not the body language of a beaten fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    If your going by body language, did you not see him make a little surge towards the end of that round? Thats not the body language of a beaten fighter.
    Yes, and that was his final surge because he thought Hoya hit him after the bell. He also got tagged right before that and looked like a beaten fighter when the bell rang. He was done after that. Sorry man but the guy quit, and that's coming from a huge Chavez fan. The guy was phoenominal up to the 1st Taylor fight....great fighter! I wish i could find some of those in mint shape.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    The headbut Chavez got with Randal II was a pretty big bleeding gash. Who would continue like that? Well, good thing they had a 3rd encounter and it's not like "Oh, Randall was past his prime" but BOTH were at the same level and it was not a boring fight with both of them exchanging here and there.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    I still disagree with you man, its all good you are entitled to your opinion. The surge I was talking about was about 30-1 min left in the round he was coming forward landing rights, not the part where he responds to the late hit by De la Hoya. If his corner told him the cut was not bad they were obviously blind, that was bleeding alot.
    Last edited by No Contest; 05-07-2008 at 08:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I still disagree with you man, its all good you are entitled to your opinion. The surge I was talking about was about 30-1 min left in the round he was coming forward landing rights, not the part where he responds to the late hit by De la Hoya. If his corner told him the cut was not bad they were obviously blind, that was bleeding alot.
    Oh, gotcha. I agree with ya there with it being Chavez's best charge of the fight...but it was his last because Hoya clocked him with an uppercut that really jarred and stunned Chavez. And that was the beginning of the end for him. But The cut was blown out of proportion and Chavez wanted no more after that rd.

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    Default Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?

    I repped everyone one that said how great JCC was, but have to spread the rep before I can do it for hitmandonny.

    I fell in love with the JCC even before I knew his name. He was systematically battering a fighter with relentless force and boxing skill. He had a granite chin and very under rated defence where he parried punches so he could get his own in. His conditioning was second to none and fighting skills were up there with the greats.

    Yes he quit in his latter fights but do not judge him against those fights. He was never the best sportsman but he was an amazing fighter who fought as if you had offended his mother and he wanted to hurt you real bad. He wanted to punish you before finishing you off, very brutal fighter. A prime Chavez would beat Oscar at the weight they fought.

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