How good was a 'prime' tyson?

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You should know more than that ICB. Holding is something not respectable when you tell people that you would fight all out.

Well sometimes you have to fight a bit dirty to get the win Bruce and holding sometimes is a part of it. Holyfield beat Tyson by using clinching tactics, and Hopkins also clinched Calzaghe to good effect, and the same with Hatton vs Tszyu, its not pretty but it gets the job done if used correctly. I personally don't like seeing it but you do what you have to do to win.

Yeh,Holding/tieing up happens.Technically illegal but in all reality it also leads to inside oppurtunitys.Some guys just make a way of life with it.Hey...welcome back ICB,You can add in Great counter Hooks and lead rights,And dismissing all of the pundits who had felt Holyfields life was ' at risk' just getting in the ring with Tyson as to reasons He beat Tyson