Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
Lyle no one is trying to change your opinion but the reason why you perceive that everyone is trying to change your opinion is that your argument is open to criticism and you fail to recognise it. From someone who is a very good poster, you seem blinkered that your reasoning stands up to scrutiny but unfortunately it does not.

Ali was the best heavyweight ever and you do have to be a sheep to admit that. His record speaks for itself, he had an unbelievable chin, excellent jab, heart of a lion, beat 3 great heavyweight champions, and he inspired more people around the world and transcended boxing like no other fighter has ever done.
#1 Joe Louis - Max Baer, Jim Braddock, Max Schmelling, and Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano - Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott, and Joe Louis

#2 Joe and Rocky both had: Unbelieveable chins, hearts of lions, and inspired people.

#3 Joe Louis did more for this country than Ali could EVER do and that's not said because I don't agree with Ali's politics, it's said because Joe Louis really did do so much for this country and for his people.

I think what everyone needs to realize is I am not taking Ali's achievements down a peg it's I think Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano's accomplishments are THAT good....it doesn't diminish what Ali did. I never said Ali wasn't great, I never said anything bad about him but I get lectured to like I have just taken a big steaming crap on his legacy and that's not the case at all.