Ricky Hatton; Good Call.

[Mikkel_K]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yeah I'm with you Saddo, even as a Ricky fan. Ricky should have been in that ring Saturday night and he would have beaten Witter worse than Bradly did IMO. I'm sure Hatton would be more keen to make the fight now but obviously the demand is down the shitter.

Ricky missed out on what could have been another great win of his career, beat a long term domestic rival in Witter and then maybe go for a big money fight again.

I can see why (if it's the case) Hatton avoided Witter after his defeat to Floyd because Witter looked brilliant againsed Harris.

The thing is Harris was shot to hell!

Witter was calling out Hatton just for me.

I genuinely believe Ricky when he said he just wanted to prevent Witter getting minted off his name

I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

Witter had the beltand was ranked no 1 or 2, simple! it would have been a good fight we all wanted to see it its not now going to happen

I am going to leave it at that Donny and we will have to disagree

Personally I would rarther see him fight Witter than Paulie I see a very easy night for Hatton against feather fisted Malignaggi

I don't want to ignite an arguement, but Witter's ranking at No.2 (after Hatton) was more a reflection on the lack of depth in the Light Welterweight division at the moment.

People continue to complain that Ricky hasn't fought anyone since Tszyu.
But in trurth there are very few others remaining at Light Welter. Since Cotto's immigration all that remains is Paulie, Torres, Kotelnik, Witter and D-Hop.
Although Bradley can now be added to that list, it is clear that there is little flexibility in the division.
Witter demanded his hot, but in truth, what sort of a fight woulkd it make?

The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter

Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

[Bomp]

The thing is Harris was shot to hell!

Witter was calling out Hatton just for me.

I genuinely believe Ricky when he said he just wanted to prevent Witter getting minted off his name

I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

I don't want to ignite an arguement, but Witter's ranking at No.2 (after Hatton) was more a reflection on the lack of depth in the Light Welterweight division at the moment.

People continue to complain that Ricky hasn't fought anyone since Tszyu.
But in trurth there are very few others remaining at Light Welter. Since Cotto's immigration all that remains is Paulie, Torres, Kotelnik, Witter and D-Hop.
Although Bradley can now be added to that list, it is clear that there is little flexibility in the division.
Witter demanded his hot, but in truth, what sort of a fight woulkd it make?

The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter

Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

[Kel]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Khan? I think Frank Warren would rather get fucked by a dinosaur than put Khan in with Hatton mate.

[HattonTheHammer]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Will never happen in a million years!!

[Memphis]

I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

[totalboxing1]

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

[Fenster]

I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

This fight should be boycotted by all true boxing fans. Although I will probably buy it if in on the night.

1. I can afford to lose £15

2. I'm a MUG.

[donnydarkoIRL]

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

[totalboxing1]

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

Yeah I guess but still, Bradley has just shot himself up the rankings. Whether Witter just had a bad night (which seems to be a regular occurance) or not I don't know, maybe Bradley is capable of beating all of them but Hatton (maybe even Hatton) but if Junior faced Torres and Kotelnik and beat them, he is still up there as a contender.

I ain't Witters biggest fan, I'm just suggesting he may not be out of the running just yet. I'd personally love to see him and Hatton go at it. Would be a nice win on Hattons record

[donnydarkoIRL]

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

Yeah I guess but still, Bradley has just shot himself up the rankings. Whether Witter just had a bad night (which seems to be a regular occurance) or not I don't know, maybe Bradley is capable of beating all of them but Hatton (maybe even Hatton) but if Junior faced Torres and Kotelnik and beat them, he is still up there as a contender.

I ain't Witters biggest fan, I'm just suggesting he may not be out of the running just yet. I'd personally love to see him and Hatton go at it. Would be a nice win on Hattons record

I think you touched on something very interesting there.

Bradley is a fighter who in a potential fight with Hatton, could serve to really bring the best out of Rick. He's got a rough tough style like Ben Tackie, that saw Ricky perform beautifully against in the past.

As for Junior, what can I saw. He talked it and he didn't back it up, I don't hope his careers over, but I just don't feel he was worth anythig to Rick's legacy even at his highest point.

[Mikkel_K]

Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Will never happen in a million years!!

Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight...

[HattonTheHammer]

I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

Will never happen in a million years!!

Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight...

i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

[leftylee]

Will never happen in a million years!!

Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight...

i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer

[Saddo]

Good thread from guys from both sides not crap talking just debate... great read

i will add this for the people who mentioned Witter wasnt a big money fight... did you see the crowd last sat for the witter fight it was pretty big

anyhooo its by the by as now as that fight is gone but i will be intrested to see if this Hatton fight really is full regardless of the claims of 55,000+ tickets sold i think there is gonna be a few thousand unhappy touts come fight night

PR is a wonderful thing dont you think