Quote Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post
Ok its not a "fact". Jesus, calm down.

Whatever the dissenting opinion over your two round discrepency, JOE WON THAT FIGHT. The world at large, save a small percentage of Nard fans, all agree. Over and done.

Say what you will, thats the beauty of this country. But if they end up meeting, just remember what I said. Pavlik gets outclassed, outboxed, and loses convincingly.


And you know what? People will STILL doubt Joe. The next guy they pair up Calzaghe with, there will still be excuses made for Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins, and Pavlik as to why they weren't at their best or about how they got robbed.

Maybe Joe can never overcome the one thing that most hold silenty against him.

He's not an American...
I am calm maybe your the one that needs to calm down. I stated my points without insulting you, i believe Hopkins won the fight and that doesn't make me "Insane" or whatever you think, just because i have a different opinion. Just like your's is an opinion not a "Fact".

By the way i am English i come from London, it doesn't mean just because i come from the UK i automatically have to like Calzaghe or etc, im not really a fan of his but i don't hate him i have most of his fights.

I just think he should of moved up to Light Heavyweight years ago. He always said he was tight at the weight. As for the wins you mentioned like i have said time and time again i never really rated Lacy, i see him struggle with mediocre opposition like Omar Sheika, Syd Vanderpool, i'll give Calzaghe credit for Kessler win because i did rate Kessler and i still do. I give Calzaghe credit for Hopkins win, even though i don't believe he won. But i still think younger Hopkins would of beaten him, but thats just my opinion.

Calzaghe was unlucky to come along at the wrong time when Benn, Watson, McCallum, Jones, Toney, Collins, etc had either retired or moved up in weight.