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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by bcollins View Post
    I voted no, but it's a fight I could see going either way. Calzaghe's movement and workrate would probably give Pavlik problems, but then again, Pavlik's right hand would most likely be a danger to Joe all night long.

    I'd like to see it...but I'd still like to see Joe and RJJ go at it first, just for the hell of it.
    I think closely along your lines. Only difference is i don't see Joe's workrate being a problem with Pavlik. Pav seems to enjoy taking shots to the face

    I see Lateral Movement and a southpaw stance giving Pavlik issues. He has somewhat shaky foot movement and it could spell trouble. I am basing my observations on what he has faced so far in opponents. He may actually have an answer for it though and prove me wrong.

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bcollins View Post
    I voted no, but it's a fight I could see going either way. Calzaghe's movement and workrate would probably give Pavlik problems, but then again, Pavlik's right hand would most likely be a danger to Joe all night long.

    I'd like to see it...but I'd still like to see Joe and RJJ go at it first, just for the hell of it.
    I think closely along your lines. Only difference is i don't see Joe's workrate being a problem with Pavlik. Pav seems to enjoy taking shots to the face

    I see Lateral Movement and a southpaw stance giving Pavlik issues. He has somewhat shaky foot movement and it could spell trouble. I am basing my observations on what he has faced so far in opponents. He may actually have an answer for it though and prove me wrong.

    The answer Pavlik will have, will be when Joe tries to jump in close, square up and unload his flurries. When he does that, I think Pavlik will just punch through it, he knows Joe doesn't have anything that can hurt him.

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    reid barely won 1 round against calzaghe. I was hard pressed to give reid anything.

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer View Post
    reid barely won 1 round against calzaghe. I was hard pressed to give reid anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer View Post
    reid barely won 1 round against calzaghe. I was hard pressed to give reid anything.
    YOU were hard pressed to give Reid anything !
    Well you oviously dont know anything about boxing then , you fool.
    I hate it when you get posters with no profile /age etc. cos you get idiots like this guy.

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Pavlik gets schooled or KO'd late. Hopkins wasnt there to be hit, Pavlik will be.

    Joe C too good for him.
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Pavlik gets schooled or KO'd late. Hopkins wasnt there to be hit, Pavlik will be.

    Joe C too good for him.
    I think Pavlik can walk through Calzaghe's slaps without getting stopped. Can Calzaghe walk through Pavlik's punches is the question?

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Pavlik gets schooled or KO'd late. Hopkins wasnt there to be hit, Pavlik will be.

    Joe C too good for him.
    I think Pavlik can walk through Calzaghe's slaps without getting stopped. Can Calzaghe walk through Pavlik's punches is the question?
    Calzaghe's never walked through anyone's shots, he's a counter puncher.
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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer View Post
    reid barely won 1 round against calzaghe. I was hard pressed to give reid anything.



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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    I'd like to see this fight. I voted for Pavlik. Mainly due to age. But it would depend on what weight they fought at for me.
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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    firstly i will admit im a huge calzaghe fan - hell the first boxing event i went to was "the full monty" in sheffield where he took the title off eubank (ill admit i was there to watch naz but left as a fan of joe) i was there when he beat lacy and kessler too. It just seems that every single opponent joe's had people are lining up to write him off. I honestly don't believe any of the touted fighters (jones jr, tarver, pavlik) are going to beat him - he just is that good. look at the punches he took off kessler and didn't even blink. True hopkins might have knocked hm down - but it didn't seem to bother him that much!

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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    Quote Originally Posted by bikersk View Post
    I'd like to see this fight. I voted for Pavlik. Mainly due to age. But it would depend on what weight they fought at for me.
    If it happened I'd say 90% chance it's going to be at supermiddle.

    I would deinatly go with Joe via UD, we know he's a sucker for a right hand and all but pavlik has nowhere near the IQ of B-Hop or the movement to make Joe jump into those right hands like he did.

    B-Hop is just so hard to hit, if you do catch him he is already moving away from the punch or has managed to partially block the shot wich is probably why Joes shots looked so feeble and ineffective.
    Wev'e heard it must be about 30 odd times "he slaps,but he slaps hard" I dont think pavlik will just walk through the shots he likes a tear up but he aint superman, you dont just ignore it do you, if you get punched in the face cleanly your gonna feel it.

    I think work rate will do it for Joe at the end of this one,hell ship a few big ones but i think he has the chin to stand up to it. B-Hops shot rattled him cos he didn't see it coming......the ones that hurt the most are the ones you dont see coming...I can't see pavlik with that sort of smarts Joe will see every shot,no KO.
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    Default Re: Would Kelly Pavlik end Calzaghe's undefeated record if they met?

    I would have to see a bit more of Pavlik before I can make a desicion like this... He beat Miranda, and JT 2x which most didnt regard him all that high at the end. Kelly personifies all that is good about boxing.(power,chin,personality, excitement, outstanding sportsman)

    JC as we know has proven himself to all the critics, especially me FORMALLY one of his biggest. 2nd best supermiddle of all time undefeated and over 10 year reigning champion along with being Lineal and universally recognized Champion of 2 divisions... His plaque and space have already been set aside in Canastota.... Enough said

    If Kelly beats him its only because Joe got old and less mobile... But Kelly's Helacious right is his meal ticket and Joe's achilles heal. The question is can Calzaghe keep showing angles so Kelly cant set and sit on his punches.

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