Why does the lighter divisions never get any credit

[Dark Lord Al]

Yes its about marketability , for example Ricardo Lopez who might be the most complete fighter in history , was on a Tyson undercard earning less money than Christy Martin. This is a disgrace , and as the real boxing fans know some of the lighter fights are much more fun to watch.
Personaly i loved to watch Khaosai Galaxy back in the late 80's early 90's.

[Violent Demise]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

[Deanrw]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

I'll be honest with you. I never even heard of Nietes before and never seen either of them fight.

[Violent Demise]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

I'll be honest with you. I never even heard of Nietes before and never seen either of them fight.

Niida is the best Strawweight out there. As well as the WBA champion. He's top 3 in the list of the best Strawweight's ever. Nietes is the WBO Strawweight title holder. Decent fighter. Niida I really like.

[Deanrw]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

I'll be honest with you. I never even heard of Nietes before and never seen either of them fight.

Niida is the best Strawweight out there. As well as the WBA champion. He's top 3 in the list of the best Strawweight's ever. Nietes is the WBO Strawweight title holder. Decent fighter. Niida I really like.

It is just really hard to get exposed to the really small guys over here. No networks carry them. I have heard about Niida before though.

[:::PSL:::]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

I'll be honest with you. I never even heard of Nietes before and never seen either of them fight.

Niida is the best Strawweight out there. As well as the WBA champion. He's top 3 in the list of the best Strawweight's ever. Nietes is the WBO Strawweight title holder. Decent fighter. Niida I really like.

Latest word on Nietes...

BREAKING NEWS: NIETES TO DEFEND WBO CROWN IN MEXICO!
By Salven L. Lagumbay, PhilBoxing.com, 19 May 2008
World Boxing Organization (WBO) minimumweight kingpin Donnie Nietes will defend his crown for the first time on July 5 against Mexican Erik Ramirez at the Estadio Huracán in Pachuca, Hidalgo, Mexico. This was announced today by Nietes' manager Michael Aldeguer during the formal announcement of th Read Full Story >>> BREAKING NEWS: NIETES TO DEFEND WBO CROWN IN MEXICO!

[HattonTheHammer]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

Never heard of either

strawweight!! isnt that like 100 pounds

who the hell weighs a 100 pounds apart from anorexic teenage girls and midgets anyway??

deanrw - has it summed perfectly. The whole reason the heavyweight division has always been recognised as the premiere division within the sport is because it contains the biggest guys, throwing the hardest punches in the toughest of battles.

I personally grew up having no affiliating with anything below lightweight until your barreras/morales/hameds/pacquiaos came along and completely blew away all your evident stereotypes of little men who probably wouldnt be able to take a good solid punch.

Think in the UK and US in particular these type of divisions are regularly overlooked because we dont often get too many hometown fighters in them.

Its no myth that the further down the divisions you go the more evident you find south american and asian fighters plying their trades. Why that is? i have no idea whatsoever.

[Dizaster]

It's just human nature to want to see the "bigger/better" things..

Going back hundreds of years with the gladiators, they would pick the big warrior type men and they were championed by the people... Back in boxings early days, it would have been one thing to see men like yourself fighting in the ring against another guy... What a sport... But seeing 2 really big genetically gifted guys going at it would have been a real treat... It's definetely more marketable, and just our nature in general is to want to observe things that are bigger and better than us..

Think of like a pub fight where 2 little skinny dweebs started grabbing at each other and maybe throwing a punch.. It would sort of be classed as entertaining (not that i'm at all a fan of pub fights)... But if the 2 biggest dudes in the ENTIRE pub start grabbing at each other and were about to fight, it would definetely create a different atmosphere in there..
We are still animals by nature, so with a fight between bigger heavier humans, we would perceive there to be more at stake than if 2 little skinny guys are fighting.... TSo bigger people fighting is more interesting and has more value to us...

I guess that's a part of it... I'm sure there are more reasons..

Another might be that 99% of their names are impossible to pronounce.. Heavier guys have easier names I find..

[TommyGunn_]

Boxing is boxing, the lil guys entertain just as much as the bigger guys.

[CutMeMick]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

[Violent Demise]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

[brucelee]

It's just human nature to want to see the "bigger/better" things..

Going back hundreds of years with the gladiators, they would pick the big warrior type men and they were championed by the people... Back in boxings early days, it would have been one thing to see men like yourself fighting in the ring against another guy... What a sport... But seeing 2 really big genetically gifted guys going at it would have been a real treat... It's definetely more marketable, and just our nature in general is to want to observe things that are bigger and better than us..

Think of like a pub fight where 2 little skinny dweebs started grabbing at each other and maybe throwing a punch.. It would sort of be classed as entertaining (not that i'm at all a fan of pub fights)... But if the 2 biggest dudes in the ENTIRE pub start grabbing at each other and were about to fight, it would definetely create a different atmosphere in there..
We are still animals by nature, so with a fight between bigger heavier humans, we would perceive there to be more at stake than if 2 little skinny guys are fighting.... TSo bigger people fighting is more interesting and has more value to us...

I guess that's a part of it... I'm sure there are more reasons..

Another might be that 99% of their names are impossible to pronounce.. Heavier guys have easier names I find..

I agree with you. That's why I said Asians are smaller in size. US, UK and Russia have bigger fighters and people are more interested with them before. As a boxing fan, I still prefer to see fighters who can knock out his opponents. I think, this is the reason why some boxing fans love to watch Pavlik and Pacquaio, etc. though they are in lower weights

[brucelee]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

Never heard of either

strawweight!! isnt that like 100 pounds

who the hell weighs a 100 pounds apart from anorexic teenage girls and midgets anyway??

deanrw - has it summed perfectly. The whole reason the heavyweight division has always been recognised as the premiere division within the sport is because it contains the biggest guys, throwing the hardest punches in the toughest of battles.

I personally grew up having no affiliating with anything below lightweight until your barreras/morales/hameds/pacquiaos came along and completely blew away all your evident stereotypes of little men who probably wouldnt be able to take a good solid punch.

Think in the UK and US in particular these type of divisions are regularly overlooked because we dont often get too many hometown fighters in them.

Its no myth that the further down the divisions you go the more evident you find south american and asian fighters plying their trades. Why that is? i have no idea whatsoever.

Asians are smaller in size that's why they are in lower divisions. The reason why heavyweights before are more popular than the lighter weights is because people looked up to the supremacy of US and UK and they would also associate it with supremacy in boxing. Now that information is becoming accessible to all parts of the world because of advancement in technology, Asian and South American fighters are slowly being given recognition. For example, Pacquaio is becoming very popular because of the support he gets from his countrymen and that is very evident in this site.

[aburwell89]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

I think that's taking it a bit far, really. Different people have different tastes and tend to direct their focus on what they like most. For instance, one of my good friends is just as much of a college football fan as I am, but given the fact that we root for different teams from different conferences, there's a lot that he doesn't know about my team/conference and vice versa.

[p4pking]

There's a lot of idiots out there. I find it funny when people claim to be boxing fans but don't follow certain division (the small ones paticular). How the fukk you going to claim to be a boxing fan and not know who the fukk Yutata Niida and Donnie Nietes are?

Guilty.... I've never followed strawweight, don't think it says anything about me not being a boxing fan though. It's just about what's available. I live in Canada, so seeing any decent live fights is tough enough.. I have to try and download or watch on youtube basically most signifigant fights. If there were ever a good strawweight fight on the undercard you can bet I'd watch... But I'm not going to go out of my way to find strawweight matches online that receive such little press in the first place. I've seen quite a lot of Ivan Calderon now, simply because he has garnered attention in the ring, people talk about him. I just can't sit down and look at strawweight titleholders and think, hmmm, think I'm going to look up some of his fights. If I had all day to sit on the computer sure, but as it is I don't have enough time to see all the classic fights I'd like to, much less current.