Why does the lighter divisions never get any credit

[CutMeMick]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

[Violent Demise]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

[HattonTheHammer]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

Think p4pking made a good point

its not neccesarily that i dont want to watch 2 100pound guys beating on eachother.

But boxing coverage in the UK is few and far between and for my recollection not a single strawweight encounter has ever been televised.

You yanks get the best of all worlds, you get the domestic contests, south american fights and all the latest action from europe.

We on the other hand get friday fight night featuring 2 domestic fighters battling over the british/commonwealth championships and the occasional big fight night stateside.

hence the reason i had to stay up to silly o`clock last saturday night for some dodgy sopcast stream that kept cutting out just to watch mijares-munoz!!

[killersheep]

Niida is definately a badass. Also definately worth mentioning is Hozumi Hasagawa at Bantam, he has amazing skill, quick hands, quick feet and the ability to counter from any angle.

If you see anyone with the last name Kratingdaenggym that is actually a gym that they fight for, I have never been dissapointed watching any of them fight win or lose.

Pornsawan Kratingdaenggym lost a very close decision to Nietes, he did get knocked down and had a point deduction, but on a sheer skill level it was very close.

Eagle Den Junlaphan is also a great 105 lb'er he got shafted in a decision in his last fight, but he is also quite a talent.

[CutMeMick]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

I favor Alvares over Niida based on opposition. Alvarez was at Straw for a solid 6 yrs. Alvarez also holds a win over Porpaion...
I favor Niida over Nene def.
I favor Porpaion over Niida based on opposition slightly.
I think Niida needs one of the top guys to solidify himself, someon like Condes, Oleydong or Nietes.

[Violent Demise]

Whoever doesn't follow the little guys, is lacking MAJOR shit...
The little guys is where the skills are at.



VD, that's a pretty bold statement there on Niida.
Top 3 all time.

I don't the quality of his opposition merits that but his continous success does. You gotta consider fighters like Rosendo Alvarez, Nene Sanchez and Chana Porpaion who all fought during argueably the best era of the division.

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

I favor Alvares over Niida based on opposition. Alvarez was at Straw for a solid 6 yrs. Alvarez also holds a win over Porpaion...
I favor Niida over Nene def.
I favor Porpaion over Niida based on opposition slightly.
I think Niida needs one of the top guys to solidify himself, someon like Condes, Oleydong or Nietes.

I can put Alvarez over Niida. But that's it. Niida wins over Noel Arambulet, Eriberto Gejon, JJ Landaeta, Kat Takayama and Porpaion is a good resume. Enough for me to rate him over Porpaion

[ICB]

Why is Alvarez vs Lopez 2 so rare ?? i've seen there 1st fight but i would love to see the rematch i heard that was close like there 1st fight.

[Violent Demise]

Why is Alvarez vs Lopez 2 so rare ?? i've seen there 1st fight but i would love to see the rematch i heard that was close like there 1st fight.

That fight was a war. One of the best lower weight fights ever

[Spicoli]

This came up in another thread.Heavyweights are very overrated.I started a conversation the other day at the clinic and dude say's "yeh I love boxing,....when Is Tyson fighting again" I Gave him a virtual Wtf face.Psuedo Farce fan.The era of American Dominance at Heavy is over....for now I think much has changed over the last few years and Networks ,media and In turn Fans have followed suite.The Heavyweight Division is no longer the engine of this sport and The lighter weights were always that great and More exciting..Imo...and deserved of top respect and Spotlight.

[CutMeMick]

Why is Alvarez vs Lopez 2 so rare ?? i've seen there 1st fight but i would love to see the rematch i heard that was close like there 1st fight.

Not sure, but a better part of Finitos fights were hard for me to find. I had to trade some JCC fights for some of his early stuff.

I didn't think the fight was close, I thought Finito won it convincingly.
I probably sound like a broken record but I have issues with the 1st fight and how judge Conde had the fight 68-63 in favor of Alvarez. How he had that man had Finito wining ONLY 1 round is beyond me... I mean really watch the 1st fight and tell me Finito only won 1 round that's absurd.

Fuck it, nevermind Delby Shirly had it a draw...

[ICB]

Why is Alvarez vs Lopez 2 so rare ?? i've seen there 1st fight but i would love to see the rematch i heard that was close like there 1st fight.

Not sure, but a better part of Finitos fights were hard for me to find. I had to trade some JCC fights for some of his early stuff.

I didn't think the fight was close, I thought Finito won it convincingly.
I probably sound like a broken record but I have issues with the 1st fight and how judge Conde had the fight 68-63 in favor of Alvarez. How he had that man had Finito wining ONLY 1 round is beyond me... I mean really watch the 1st fight and tell me Finito only won 1 round that's absurd.

Fuck it, nevermind Delby Shirly had it a draw...

Its shame his 2nd fight with Alvarez isn't available i have heard VD say many times that was a war, i personally loved there first fight the skill level in that fight was amazing just pure boxing at its best. One of my favorite Lopez fights is his fight with Saman Sorjaturong, he just took him apart and remember Saman beat Humberto Gonzalez who was an excellent fighter himself, Gonzalez vs Saman was a war that really was an up and downer.

As for Lopez vs Alvarez 1 you already know my thoughts on that Mick last time i see it i had it dead even Lopez was knocked down pretty heavy though and he showed good survival instincts to survive that.

[CutMeMick]

After thinking about it some more, I think I actually place Niida 2nd all time behind (way, way behind) the great Ricardo Lopez. I mean Rosendo Alvarez was great. But he didn't spend that much time at Strawweight. Porpaion was good but I rate Niida higher based on his win over him. And I place Niida higher than Ivan Calderon because I think Niida fought the better opposition.

I favor Alvares over Niida based on opposition. Alvarez was at Straw for a solid 6 yrs. Alvarez also holds a win over Porpaion...
I favor Niida over Nene def.
I favor Porpaion over Niida based on opposition slightly.
I think Niida needs one of the top guys to solidify himself, someon like Condes, Oleydong or Nietes.

I can put Alvarez over Niida. But that's it. Niida wins over Noel Arambulet, Eriberto Gejon, JJ Landaeta, Kat Takayama and Porpaion is a good resume. Enough for me to rate him over Porpaion

I can agree with that...