I got a question.....

[ono]

I'm not sure I agree with this. High intesity exercise like sprints will increase muscle mass in your legs. What is low intensity will depend on how fit you are so it doesn't have to mean walking.

I also would say that while I don't usually have a problem eating small amounts before an intense workout most people will have issues if they eat within an hour immediately before a hard workout. I wouldn't say that exercising hard on an empty stomach is bad as long as you don't feel drained. I would often leave breakfast until after my harder morning workouts if I do it early enough - say 5 or 6 am.

Hig intensity training on an empty stomach will result in a loss of muscle mass.

Exercising like this on a empty stomach is the last thing you want to do if you want to build muscle.

Suppose it all depends on what your goals are.

Nope! This is so wrong get your facts straight! Something sitting in your stomach is not yet available to your muscles. It takes energy to digest food. You need to digest it before you can use it. If you train too intensely too quickly after eating you'll just want to throw up because your body will find ti too hard to train intensely and use energy to digest your food at the same time.

You can train while ingesting very high GI, small amounts like energy gels which are pretty much pure glucose but thse things are usually reserved for endurance events like marathons, long triathlons etc where you're likely to compete for durations longer than 2 hours and use all of your glycogen reserves.

Glucose will help fuel long (relatively low intensity) endurance events but what you need to stop loosing muscle mass is protein and carbohydrates AFTER training. when your muscles need to repair - often i think they recommend something 20 mins after a session.

I have got my facts straight. Your missing my point completely. If you are using energy gels then you are not training on an empty stomach! You are using glucose.

I was simply saying, that training like that on an EMPTY STOMACH will lead to muscle loss.

[Sharla]

You don't usually use energy gels for most workouts - it's more for long workouts / races. Sometimes you will use it pre-bout for a boost but definately not for normal training and it will NOT cause muscle mass loss to train at a high intensity on an empty stomach.

You are more likely to have trouble training at a high intensity at all with normal meal in your stomach. Eating to refuel AFTER a hard workout however is important.

[ono]

You don't usually use energy gels for most workouts - it's more for long workouts / races. Sometimes you will use it pre-bout for a boost but definately not for normal training and it will NOT cause muscle mass loss to train at a high intensity on an empty stomach.

You are more likely to have trouble training at a high intensity at all with normal meal in your stomach. Eating to refuel AFTER a hard workout however is important.

Sharla i think we both have different ideas as to what constitutes an empty stomach.

By empty stomach i mean first thing on a morning before breakfast, training in a catabolic state where you haven't eaten for 8-10 hours.

When you wake up your body is in its most catabolic state. Cortisol levels in your body are as high as they would be directly after pro-longed intense exercise. It wouldn't be good to train intensely in this state. It would be very catabolic. Breaking down muscle tissue, while your stress hormone (cortisol) is at it's highest is a very very bad idea.

Training 2 hours after a meal is perfectly fine so long as you've adequetly digested the food.

This happens mainly in the small intestine. Starch is processed by amylase(an enzyme) which converts it to sucrose and maltose

Maltose and Sucrose then get absorbed into the lining of the cells in the intestine where they are converted into Glucose.

The pancreas then releases insulin to basically convert it into glycogen. Once this as happened, you're good to go.

I think we had different ideas of what an empty stomach is.

[Sharla]

You don't usually use energy gels for most workouts - it's more for long workouts / races. Sometimes you will use it pre-bout for a boost but definately not for normal training and it will NOT cause muscle mass loss to train at a high intensity on an empty stomach.

You are more likely to have trouble training at a high intensity at all with normal meal in your stomach. Eating to refuel AFTER a hard workout however is important.

Sharla i think we both have different ideas as to what constitutes an empty stomach.

By empty stomach i mean first thing on a morning before breakfast, training in a catabolic state where you haven't eaten for 8-10 hours.

When you wake up your body is in its most catabolic state. Cortisol levels in your body are as high as they would be directly after pro-longed intense exercise. It wouldn't be good to train intensely in this state. It would be very catabolic. Breaking down muscle tissue, while your stress hormone (cortisol) is at it's highest is a very very bad idea.

Training 2 hours after a meal is perfectly fine so long as you've adequetly digested the food.

This happens mainly in the small intestine. Starch is processed by amylase(an enzyme) which converts it to sucrose and maltose

Maltose and Sucrose then get absorbed into the lining of the cells in the intestine where they are converted into Glucose.

The pancreas then releases insulin to basically convert it into glycogen. Once this as happened, you're good to go.

I think we had different ideas of what an empty stomach is.

ok that makes more sense to me than literally an empty stomach

[ICB]

I made my own speedbag platform.

[Dizaster]

I made my own speedbag platform.

Same here at my old house...

The key is definetely to make it as solid as possible... The wood I used was probably about 3/4 of and inch thick, so not to much, but I really mounted it quite solidly... Even with that though, it moved just a tiny bit when I was hitting the bag, and that would wash some of the speed off the bag and it didn't feel as good as if it was completely solid.... Some really thick dense wood and a solid mount would make for an awesome platform... And homemade ones can be just as good as a professional one for the same price, or less...

[ono]

You don't usually use energy gels for most workouts - it's more for long workouts / races. Sometimes you will use it pre-bout for a boost but definately not for normal training and it will NOT cause muscle mass loss to train at a high intensity on an empty stomach.

You are more likely to have trouble training at a high intensity at all with normal meal in your stomach. Eating to refuel AFTER a hard workout however is important.

Sharla i think we both have different ideas as to what constitutes an empty stomach.

By empty stomach i mean first thing on a morning before breakfast, training in a catabolic state where you haven't eaten for 8-10 hours.

When you wake up your body is in its most catabolic state. Cortisol levels in your body are as high as they would be directly after pro-longed intense exercise. It wouldn't be good to train intensely in this state. It would be very catabolic. Breaking down muscle tissue, while your stress hormone (cortisol) is at it's highest is a very very bad idea.

Training 2 hours after a meal is perfectly fine so long as you've adequetly digested the food.

This happens mainly in the small intestine. Starch is processed by amylase(an enzyme) which converts it to sucrose and maltose

Maltose and Sucrose then get absorbed into the lining of the cells in the intestine where they are converted into Glucose.

The pancreas then releases insulin to basically convert it into glycogen. Once this as happened, you're good to go.

I think we had different ideas of what an empty stomach is.

ok that makes more sense to me than literally an empty stomach

Yeh we're cool now tho.