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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Umm not sure could be just the picture but compare it to this picture when Margarito is in perfect fighting shape.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/ylang/pt/...-Margarito.jpg
    Trust me it's not just the pictures.
    I've seen him as I'm sure so have you guys in between fights. I've also seen him in person. He is a little heavy, how heavy he is my guess is 170-175 lbs. somewhere around there. I know the fights until July but I guess it's just that I haven't seen Margarito like this in between fights before.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Umm not sure could be just the picture but compare it to this picture when Margarito is in perfect fighting shape.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/ylang/pt/...-Margarito.jpg
    Trust me it's not just the pictures.
    I've seen him as I'm sure so have you guys in between fights. I've also seen him in person. He is a little heavy, how heavy he is my guess is 170-175 lbs. somewhere around there. I know the fights until July but I guess it's just that I haven't seen Margarito like this in between fights before.
    Could be a lot of things like you said it could be a plan to out hustle and bully Cotto, but i personally don't think he needs to do that, because he is already physically stronger than Cotto IMO. If he is doing that then he has to be careful because that will lead him to being slower all over. And he already has slow feet and mediocre hand speed, and he is putting himself a risk to Cotto's superior boxing skills.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    I was thinking that as well seeing the pic's on fightnews.His Just looked Beefy.He'll shed excess and be primed for the opening bell .Cotto needs to be refitted for his Jackets/Suits,Sleeves just hanging there over his hand almost.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.
    I think Margarito's size and style, combined with the fact that Cotto has been hurt by lesser fighters (weight-drained, I know...) are leading people to think that way, myself included.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.
    I think Margarito's size and style, combined with the fact that Cotto has been hurt by lesser fighters (weight-drained, I know...) are leading people to think that way, myself included.
    And when exactly has Margarito been in the ring with a fighter that posseses Cotto's skills? Only guys who come close have made him look average, in Williams and Clottey(who would've won handily without the hand injury imo). I think Mosley and Judah were both tougher fights for Cotto than Tony will prove to be, and both of them landed good shots on Cotto to little effect, which indeed would indicate it was the weight, if you ask me. Sure it could be a grueling battle of attrition, but I think only if Cotto isn't smart enough to ensure that it isn't. I really feel he has the skills to avoid having to go to war with Tony. I'm not denying Margo is going to be hell for anyone if their gameplan is to stand toe to toe with him all night, but Cotto's ability to counter punch and fight off the back foot havve been getting better every fight.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Here this is from todays press conference in New York.





    Yeah, he looks a little heavy to me.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.
    I think Margarito's size and style, combined with the fact that Cotto has been hurt by lesser fighters (weight-drained, I know...) are leading people to think that way, myself included.
    And when exactly has Margarito been in the ring with a fighter that posseses Cotto's skills? Only guys who come close have made him look average, in Williams and Clottey(who would've won handily without the hand injury imo). I think Mosley and Judah were both tougher fights for Cotto than Tony will prove to be, and both of them landed good shots on Cotto to little effect, which indeed would indicate it was the weight, if you ask me. Sure it could be a grueling battle of attrition, but I think only if Cotto isn't smart enough to ensure that it isn't. I really feel he has the skills to avoid having to go to war with Tony. I'm not denying Margo is going to be hell for anyone if their gameplan is to stand toe to toe with him all night, but Cotto's ability to counter punch and fight off the back foot havve been getting better every fight.
    The question could also be asked when has Cotto been in the ring with someone as big, strong, durable, and active at Margarito? I'd definately give the advantage for Cotto, for the reasons you mentioned, but this is by no means a slam dunk for him and something tells me Margarito will find a way to win; though I'm by no means 100% sure Margarito will win, this is the type of fight I go back and forth on. That being said, I've gone against Cotto in his last 2 fights, and he's always proven me wrong.
    Last edited by CFH; 05-23-2008 at 02:40 AM.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    I don't think Cotto is going to box the whole fight like a lot of people seem to think he is going to do. Margarito is a long armed puncher Cotto can afford to go inside on him because he has the shorter punches and the faster hands. Sure he can outbox him but I've never seen Cotto on the back foot for to long except against Mosley which was only about half the fight. Also the outside is Tony's wheel house I think that's giving Tony his best shot. I know he has the ability to counterpunch and outbox Margarito but I wouldn't doubt he spends more time then expected inside just because he can afford it.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.
    I just think personally that Margarito is the most dangerous opponent Cotto has ever fought IMO. Margarito is very big physically for Welterweight as well so it will be interesting. Boxing skills wise theres no contest Cotto is by far the superior boxer but i feel Margarito will have his moments when Cotto is against the ropes, where Margarito does some of his best work. Plus Margarito has good uppercut which is Cotto's biggest weakness. I think Cotto wins a tough UD Cotto's hooks are much shorter than Margarito's so he will be able to win exchanges then get back out of there and stick to his boxing.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    I think Margarito can get him backing up .....And not simply because Cotto descides to put on a boxing clinic and dictate terms.I think Maragritos Volume and angel's will cause many problems for Cotto.The ring ends at some point...On the ropes.Margarito's uppercuts can find Cotto.Cotto's jab will be key,Body & head & his bodywork has Improved alot.Tony's upper cuts can find Cotto also.I can honestly see both hurt in the body And I am Picking Margarito to TKO Cotto late.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Everyone is giving Margarito too much of a shot in this fight, imo. Cotto will outbox him handily.
    I just think personally that Margarito is the most dangerous opponent Cotto has ever fought IMO. Margarito is very big physically for Welterweight as well so it will be interesting. Boxing skills wise theres no contest Cotto is by far the superior boxer but i feel Margarito will have his moments when Cotto is against the ropes, where Margarito does some of his best work. Plus Margarito has good uppercut which is Cotto's biggest weakness. I think Cotto wins a tough UD Cotto's hooks are much shorter than Margarito's so he will be able to win exchanges then get back out of there and stick to his boxing.
    You have reason ICB , i agree , to me who get the better phisical condition ( Shape ) and comes with diverses strategies for fight that is who will win ...............

    But about the weakness , we know that ones of Cotto , is the uppercut that sometimes put him in bad situation though , where had much improve and Margarito we know that he does not boxing technically enough...............but

    What else do we can say about their Weakness..............?
    Last edited by Macho; 05-23-2008 at 02:44 PM.

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    Default Re: I can't help it but notice how heavy Margarito looks.

    Cotto will make combinations inside and work to the body for exhaust Margarito in the first 5 and 6 rounds , he should do that for then exchange and outbox until the end , i dont think that Cotto will outbox all the fight , Margarito is a consistence boxer , where you have the obligation to stop him.......................

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