For whatever reason..no one has come along yet to prove he isn't. Saying an undeafeted champ of over 10 years isn't that good is kinda crazy. Some may not like him, his style, who he has or hasn't fought, but if he isn't good sitting where he sits in the sport and in life then i hate to hear what you think of all the people sitting below him, and those he's beaten. I don't necessarily like the guy and think he has almost no chance of beating pavlik but the guy could get his head completly knocked off and that doesn't take away from what he's managed to do.