To me Calzaghe still ain't that good.

[SE7EN]

Imo, he's that good. I think he accomplished enough. But! I can't consider him as one of ATGs yet til he beats Pavlik or even RJJr.

[El Gamo]

JC could beat Jones,Pavlik and another good fighter and peeps wouldn't credit him. Just because he doesn't hit hard,doesn't make him a bad fighter. He's beaten undefeated fighters,legends,champs,unified titles,moved up,beaten the next division champ and kept his 0. I'd like to see him beat Jones(which he will do at this stagerime Jones whoops him) and Kelly(too fast and too many angles for Pav,who is to slow to catch Joe) and then see what people think.