Bilbo's Three Weekend Wishes.

[amat]

I think the street fights Lyle sees are fought with 8-10 oz. gloves, a referee who can be the only one to stop the fight and under the Unified rules of the ABC. That's the only way his argument makes any sense.

[Julius Rain]

I think the street fights Lyle sees are fought with 8-10 oz. gloves, a referee who can be the only one to stop the fight and under the Unified rules of the ABC. That's the only way his argument makes any sense.

appeRANTly its either that or lyle is just from the streets of very polite people

[Kev]

Why is kicking associated with a lack of honour or a street fight mentality?

It takes tremendous skill to throw a perfect kick, certainly harder than throwing a punch, and why exactly is it dishonourable?

In a real life street fight most people wear shoes so a kick to the face would b dishonourable since a nice steel toe cap or pointy shoe could be seen as a weapon, but in mixed martial arts the person is bare foot so are merely attacking with a limb just like using their arms.

Your analagy to art completely falls flat. Mark my words, if any paintings were discovered from Rembrandt or Da Vinci that were made in an impressionism or post impressionism style the art world would have a collective orgasm, it would be world wide news, we'd be informed over and over and over again just what visionary geniuses these guys were, anticipating an art movement some three hundred years before it developed and I guarantee those paintings would probably be some of the most expensive pieces of art in world history.

[Sharla]

Why is kicking associated with a lack of honour or a street fight mentality?

It takes tremendous skill to throw a perfect kick, certainly harder than throwing a punch, and why exactly is it dishonourable?

I've trained in both and I'm not so sure about that - i think it just depends on your standards for each

[Kev]

Why is kicking associated with a lack of honour or a street fight mentality?

It takes tremendous skill to throw a perfect kick, certainly harder than throwing a punch, and why exactly is it dishonourable?

I've trained in both and I'm not so sure about that - i think it just depends on your standards for each

I'm talking about world class martial artists like Cung Le, Cro Cop and Anderson Silva. Their kicks are simply sublime, not just straight kicks to the face but they use their legs to sweep, throw and choke out their opponents.

Let's look at some examples of each.


Cro Cop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5efA1...eature=related

Cung Le http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qk_...eature=related

Some general kick highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02Igw9fkpc

[JT Rock]

Why is kicking associated with a lack of honour or a street fight mentality?

It takes tremendous skill to throw a perfect kick, certainly harder than throwing a punch, and why exactly is it dishonourable?

I've trained in both and I'm not so sure about that - i think it just depends on your standards for each

I'm talking about world class martial artists like Cung Le, Cro Cop and Anderson Silva. Their kicks are simply sublime, not just straight kicks to the face but they use their legs to sweep, throw and choke out their opponents.

Let's look at some examples of each.


Cro Cop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5efA1...eature=related

Cung Le http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qk_...eature=related

Some general kick highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02Igw9fkpc

You can also add Remy Bonjasky and Jerome LeBanner to that list as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJh9EWjrpMk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1FAepW8II

[Sharla]

Why is kicking associated with a lack of honour or a street fight mentality?

It takes tremendous skill to throw a perfect kick, certainly harder than throwing a punch, and why exactly is it dishonourable?

I've trained in both and I'm not so sure about that - i think it just depends on your standards for each

I'm talking about world class martial artists like Cung Le, Cro Cop and Anderson Silva. Their kicks are simply sublime, not just straight kicks to the face but they use their legs to sweep, throw and choke out their opponents.

Let's look at some examples of each.


Cro Cop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5efA1...eature=related

Cung Le http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qk_...eature=related

Some general kick highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02Igw9fkpc

I won't deny that kicks take skill but I wouldn't assume that to become very good at kickboxing is harder or more technically difficult than becoming very good at boxing.

In places where boxng is more common I would argue that the competitive pressure lifts the standards of boxing above kickboxing and while I have seen it personally it probably works the same way where kicking martial arts are more competitive than boxing.

The thing with boxing is people who are good at it make it look more simple than it is and when people do not understand it they may find it easier to believe their punches are better than they actually are.

The dynamics and movement involved is often different for each too and boxing is often more complicated movement wise because you are expected to be able to move and attack and defend concurrently at a lower level than for kickboxing.

I personally found kickboxing far easier than boxing which is why I box now - to work on what I found most difficult because having found the hand skills I used in boxing were not half of what they could be i lost the sense of persuing the sport to it's ultimate level in kickboxing.

I told myself I could go back to kickboxing when I was really good at boxing and now I just think i'll never go back because it's and endless journey to achieve the perfect punch or kick.

No matter how good it looks there will ALWAYS be a slight way to improve it and any perfectionist in these sports has to accept that it will be a life long journey!