Hatton is lucky he never made it past Mayweather

[killersheep]

Stupid post. If Hatton was good enough to beat Mayweather (He isn't) I'm sure he could beat or give a very hard fight to Cotto; So when you look at it if Hatton had beat Mayweather a lot of people would be confident that he would beat Cotto.

Good point.

I also don't think for one minute Hatton would stay at 147. He would relinquish just like he did when he beat Collazo.

Hatton isn't a 147 fighter.....full stop.

The guy won a world title at the weight - he cant be that bad.

Sick and tired of endless pro and anti hatton fans claiming the 7pounds makes the world of difference.

Of course slight adjustments have to be made - but its 7pounds not 77!!

Hate to admit it but the reason ricky dominates at 140 yet struggles at 147 is because the 2 guys he fought at 147 are much better fighters than those in LW (barring tszyu)

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

[HattonTheHammer]

Good point.

I also don't think for one minute Hatton would stay at 147. He would relinquish just like he did when he beat Collazo.

Hatton isn't a 147 fighter.....full stop.

The guy won a world title at the weight - he cant be that bad.

Sick and tired of endless pro and anti hatton fans claiming the 7pounds makes the world of difference.

Of course slight adjustments have to be made - but its 7pounds not 77!!

Hate to admit it but the reason ricky dominates at 140 yet struggles at 147 is because the 2 guys he fought at 147 are much better fighters than those in LW (barring tszyu)

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

So by that logic your claiming someone of a natural body structure to move up to 154 like paul williams becomes completely ineffective at that weight level.

Mayweather was probably told when at SF not to bother moving up, yet has become the worlds greatest p4p fighter in 3 divisions higher than where he began.

Great fighters always learn to adapt, think you`ll find at least 90% of the great fighters of the last 20 years have made their names in a variety of different divisions!!

[killersheep]

The guy won a world title at the weight - he cant be that bad.

Sick and tired of endless pro and anti hatton fans claiming the 7pounds makes the world of difference.

Of course slight adjustments have to be made - but its 7pounds not 77!!

Hate to admit it but the reason ricky dominates at 140 yet struggles at 147 is because the 2 guys he fought at 147 are much better fighters than those in LW (barring tszyu)

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

So by that logic your claiming someone of a natural body structure to move up to 154 like paul williams becomes completely ineffective at that weight level.

Mayweather was probably told when at SF not to bother moving up, yet has become the worlds greatest p4p fighter in 3 divisions higher than where he began.

Great fighters always learn to adapt, think you`ll find at least 90% of the great fighters of the last 20 years have made their names in a variety of different divisions!!

Stop changing my words. For example where I say "world of difference" you change it to "ineffective". Of course it will be easier for someone that's 6'0" tall to move from 147 to 154 than someone that's 5'6" to move from 140 to 147. Don't bring in that walking around weight crap about Hatton either his fighting weight is 140 period.

[HattonTheHammer]

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

So by that logic your claiming someone of a natural body structure to move up to 154 like paul williams becomes completely ineffective at that weight level.

Mayweather was probably told when at SF not to bother moving up, yet has become the worlds greatest p4p fighter in 3 divisions higher than where he began.

Great fighters always learn to adapt, think you`ll find at least 90% of the great fighters of the last 20 years have made their names in a variety of different divisions!!

Stop changing my words. For example where I say "world of difference" you change it to "ineffective". Of course it will be easier for someone that's 6'0" tall to move from 147 to 154 than someone that's 5'6" to move from 140 to 147. Don't bring in that walking around weight crap about Hatton either his fighting weight is 140 period.

As is floyds natural weight 136, cottos 140, RJJ and hopkins 160...

need i go on?

[killersheep]

So by that logic your claiming someone of a natural body structure to move up to 154 like paul williams becomes completely ineffective at that weight level.

Mayweather was probably told when at SF not to bother moving up, yet has become the worlds greatest p4p fighter in 3 divisions higher than where he began.

Great fighters always learn to adapt, think you`ll find at least 90% of the great fighters of the last 20 years have made their names in a variety of different divisions!!

Stop changing my words. For example where I say "world of difference" you change it to "ineffective". Of course it will be easier for someone that's 6'0" tall to move from 147 to 154 than someone that's 5'6" to move from 140 to 147. Don't bring in that walking around weight crap about Hatton either his fighting weight is 140 period.

As is floyds natural weight 136, cottos 140, RJJ and hopkins 160...

need i go on?

Sure go on, I don't think any of those fighters could make that weight anymore, PBF may be an exception but I don't know if he could get below 140 anymore , but those are no longer their fighting weights.

[HattonTheHammer]

Stop changing my words. For example where I say "world of difference" you change it to "ineffective". Of course it will be easier for someone that's 6'0" tall to move from 147 to 154 than someone that's 5'6" to move from 140 to 147. Don't bring in that walking around weight crap about Hatton either his fighting weight is 140 period.

As is floyds natural weight 136, cottos 140, RJJ and hopkins 160...

need i go on?

Sure go on, I don't think any of those fighters could make that weight anymore, PBF may be an exception but I don't know if he could get below 140 anymore , but those are no longer their fighting weights.

my point being it was all their originally natural weight divisions.

However they all now fight at bigger weights and are just as succesful.

Im the biggest hatton mark going, but to suggest he is great at 140 and complete poo at 147 is kinda naive!!!

[killersheep]

As is floyds natural weight 136, cottos 140, RJJ and hopkins 160...

need i go on?

Sure go on, I don't think any of those fighters could make that weight anymore, PBF may be an exception but I don't know if he could get below 140 anymore , but those are no longer their fighting weights.

my point being it was all their originally natural weight divisions.

However they all now fight at bigger weights and are just as succesful.

Im the biggest hatton mark going, but to suggest he is great at 140 and complete poo at 147 is kinda naive!!!

To say that he performs as well at 147 as he does at 140 is even more naive. To say that 7 pounds doesn't make a difference is completely ridiculous.

Let me spell it out since you are having a hard time with this.

A fighter has a fighting weight which is the sweet spot where their body will function on the highest level at the lowest weight. If they fight at a weight too low they will have slowed reactions and decreased stamina because the will have to dehydrate themselves to make that weight. If they fight at a weight too high, their power will be compromised. The fighting weight of a boxer will naturally increase as time goes on, as their body will not allow them to lose as much weight in a healthy way. So to say that the fighting weight of fighters that can't make that weight anymore is an exercise in ignorance.

[ICB]

Good point.

I also don't think for one minute Hatton would stay at 147. He would relinquish just like he did when he beat Collazo.

Hatton isn't a 147 fighter.....full stop.

The guy won a world title at the weight - he cant be that bad.

Sick and tired of endless pro and anti hatton fans claiming the 7pounds makes the world of difference.

Of course slight adjustments have to be made - but its 7pounds not 77!!

Hate to admit it but the reason ricky dominates at 140 yet struggles at 147 is because the 2 guys he fought at 147 are much better fighters than those in LW (barring tszyu)

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

I have to agree with Sheep here i have sparred with naturally bigger fighters and i can tell you, you can feel the difference.

[boozeboxer]

The guy won a world title at the weight - he cant be that bad.

Sick and tired of endless pro and anti hatton fans claiming the 7pounds makes the world of difference.

Of course slight adjustments have to be made - but its 7pounds not 77!!

Hate to admit it but the reason ricky dominates at 140 yet struggles at 147 is because the 2 guys he fought at 147 are much better fighters than those in LW (barring tszyu)

7 pounds DOES make a world of difference. So you've never boxed I assume?

Plus most of the top welterweights are just way bigger than the top LWW.
Think of Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. 7 pounds can mean the world.

I have to agree with Sheep here i have sparred with naturally bigger fighters and i can tell you, you can feel the difference.

Hammer you are once again being stupid, however fearing the wrath of your negative rep I will politely try to show you the light.

Uncle Killersheep is right. You can be very very good at 140 and ineffective at 147. Hell Hatton is a classic example of this. Who did he fight at 147, Collozo. A guy who is pretty ackward and game but we can't really say he is world class can we. Where is he now?
Naturally, as Killsheep pointed, it is much easier for bigger guys to move up. So it would be substantially easier for Paul Williams or any large welter to move to 154 compared to a JW moving up to WW. That is common sense. They are moving up less %-wise.

[amat]

It's easy watching Hatton at 140 and then watching him at 147 that 140 is clearly the better weight for him. Not nearly as sluggish and he was tiring down the stretch at welterweight, it's a big difference you can see just by watching.