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    Elvis's career was saved by his untimely death. That may sound cruel, but it really was. He was quickly becoming an embarrassment to himself and his music.

    He couldn't carry the beatles shoes. Not only were they amazing musicians, but they were creative writing and composing geniuses. What did Elvis write? Not trying to crap on Elvis, but he just don't compare.
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    Elvis didn't have to write...he sang and he performed and no he wasn't becoming an embarrassment to himself....yeah he was a big bloated pill popper but he could still belt it buddy you had best believe it....there were 4 Beatles, Elvis did it all by himself....he brought Rock'n'Roll to the masses....AND he had staying power, there are still a ba-zillion Elvis fans....sure there are Beatles fans but Paul and Ringo are still alive, Elvis has been dead for a loooooong time.


    Not really rock'n'roll but James Brown was a bad SOB too!


    Sublime, Phish, The Grateful Dead...good bands didn't sell many albums (Sublime really only had one true album due to the death of Brad Nowell) for various reasons but good groups none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Elvis's career was saved by his untimely death. That may sound cruel, but it really was. He was quickly becoming an embarrassment to himself and his music.

    He couldn't carry the beatles shoes. Not only were they amazing musicians, but they were creative writing and composing geniuses. What did Elvis write? Not trying to crap on Elvis, but he just don't compare.
    Oh my god. That is the single most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. I love both Elvis and the Beatles, and I have to say that I agree - the Beatles did in fact have superior talent as songwriters. However, Elvis was, unquestionably, hands down, the superior performer. The Beatles made teenage girls wet themselves. The King did it to grown, fully matured women - and that's the whole point of rock and roll.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Elvis didn't have to write...he sang and he performed and no he wasn't becoming an embarrassment to himself....yeah he was a big bloated pill popper but he could still belt it buddy you had best believe it....there were 4 Beatles, Elvis did it all by himself....he brought Rock'n'Roll to the masses....AND he had staying power, there are still a ba-zillion Elvis fans....sure there are Beatles fans but Paul and Ringo are still alive, Elvis has been dead for a loooooong time.
    Well - that's not exactly true. Elvis had a band, too. It's not right to forget the people that helped Elvis become who and what he was.

    Scotty Moore - pioneering rock/rockabilly guitarist.
    Bill Black - standup bass extraordinaire, and introduced the Fender P-bass to the masses.
    D.J. Fontana - drummer for The Blue Moon Boys, as this group was known collectively.

    This band, along with The King (and Sam Phillips), is responsible for all of those hits. We tend to forget the little guys because Elvis was such an incredible performer.

    Ironically enough, Moore and Fontana rerecorded "That's All Right (Mama)" with Paul McCartney.

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    I'm not disrespecting Elvis's talent and performance ability. He was obviously gifted and help transform rock and roll music, and anyone who thinks otherwise is likely just hatin' for the sake of it. I do believe he is called the king for a reason.

    But he was also a self-indulgent, self-destructive sad case when it came to his end. And his performances weren't all that great then either. Just because a bunch of 50 and 60 year old female fans are ripping off their panties and throwing them on stage, doesn't mean 'he's still got it!"

    He was giving it his all though, but his all wasn't near what it could be because of his lifestyle.

    Elvis great performer. Yes. The Beatles, geniuses in many ways. I put a lot of weight into my thoughts based on their ground-breaking time tested creativity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    I'm not disrespecting Elvis's talent and performance ability. He was obviously gifted and help transform rock and roll music, and anyone who thinks otherwise is likely just hatin' for the sake of it. I do believe he is called the king for a reason.

    But he was also a self-indulgent, self-destructive sad case when it came to his end. And his performances weren't all that great then either. Just because a bunch of 50 and 60 year old female fans are ripping off their panties and throwing them on stage, doesn't mean 'he's still got it!"

    He was giving it his all though, but his all wasn't near what it could be because of his lifestyle.

    Elvis great performer. Yes. The Beatles, geniuses in many ways. I put a lot of weight into my thoughts based on their ground-breaking time tested creativity.
    Dude his first album to this very day cranks

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    Show me a rock'n'roller who had anywhere NEAR the success that Elvis had who wasn't a "self-destructive, self-indulgent, sad case"......you can't find ONE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Show me a rock'n'roller who had anywhere NEAR the success that Elvis had who wasn't a "self-destructive, self-indulgent, sad case"......you can't find ONE
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    Obviously, most of the greats have been mentioned-Beatles, Zep, Sabbath, Elvis, etc

    As for how they rate- best range(voice)-Elvis, best at jamming, and most talented at every spot-Zep, the best musical geniuses-Beatles.

    As for the other arguments-
    For me-Oasis is good, not a great.

    The Seattle grunge bands i like alot, especially Alice In Chains(alot of their music is depressing I admit).

    I like alot of Rock and Metal, and alot of heavy stuff, but I got to give an honorable mention to Van Halen, not to be confused with Van Hagar(although I like Sammy, and they were still good).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknowndonor View Post
    Obviously, most of the greats have been mentioned-Beatles, Zep, Sabbath, Elvis, etc

    As for how they rate- best range(voice)-Elvis, best at jamming, and most talented at every spot-Zep, the best musical geniuses-Beatles.

    As for the other arguments-
    For me-Oasis is good, not a great.

    The Seattle grunge bands i like alot, especially Alice In Chains(alot of their music is depressing I admit).

    I like alot of Rock and Metal, and alot of heavy stuff, but I got to give an honorable mention to Van Halen, not to be confused with Van Hagar(although I like Sammy, and they were still good).
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    The Beatles were the best band ever and will probably never be beaten. Thats the truth.

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    Only read the last page of this but for me The Beatles are the best band ever. And I'm just a huge huge fan of Oasis, which I know won't be considered as great, but they are to me.

    People mentioned "self-destructive, self-indulgent, sad cases", how about Ray Charles! What a legend he was, love his music and he turned his life around without the drugs etc!

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    Yeah Ray Charles "had to turn his life around"....he was a self indulgent sad case for quite a while.


    I still think The Rolling Stones are better than The Beatles...they weren't as poppy and they had a better blues sound to their songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Yeah Ray Charles "had to turn his life around"....he was a self indulgent sad case for quite a while.


    I still think The Rolling Stones are better than The Beatles...they weren't as poppy and they had a better blues sound to their songs
    But the Beatles had WAY better musical range,they could pretty much play whatever type of song they felt like,and do it well

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    And The Stones couldn't I think the Stones had better range than the Beatles....listen to "Brown Sugar" and "Midnight Rambler" then listen to "Dead Flowers" or "The Girl With Far Away Eyes"....they could do blues and country and all the crazy psychodellic stuff as well and even had some stuff which could be classified as disco "Miss You", "Emotional Rescue".


    I like The Beatles, I just think they are too poppy to be considered the greatest ROCK band of all-time. They did have some great stuff as well though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Yeah Ray Charles "had to turn his life around"....he was a self indulgent sad case for quite a while.


    I still think The Rolling Stones are better than The Beatles...they weren't as poppy and they had a better blues sound to their songs
    Really need to listen to more of the Stones. Really love blues and have heard suprisingly little of them for some reason

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