Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
So you are giving ODLH resume credit for fighting (but losing) to Tito, Shane, and Hopkins? You also call the first Castillo fight a gift decision, but wasn't the Sturm fight pretty much a gift decision for Oscar? Some would claim Oscar got a bit of a gift in the Quartey fight. And Floyd came back and handled Castillo pretty easily in the rematch.

You mention half a dozen middle of the road guys in Oscar's favor, like Ruelas and Molina, but you leave Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez off the list for Floyd, who are far superior fighters. Chavez was shot when Oscar faced him. And Floyd was freakin 21 when he fought Genaro Hernandez! That counts for something. You knock Manfredy as being no feather because his best wins were Gatti and Paez, but then you use Paez to support your case for Oscar. Manfredy also beat Gabriel Ruelas, a damn good fighter who beat Leija, who you use to support Oscar. When Gatti fought Manfredy, Gatti was pretty much in his prime.

He also just knocked out the top 10 p4p and undefeated Ring #1 LWW champ Ricky Hatton. Oh, and he beat a much larger ODLH at 154 when he started his career at 130. Oscar, who started his career at 135 could never managed a quality win at MW. Don't tell me Sturm. Even if you think he won, it wasn't a quality win with that performance.

Oscar also has a habit of catching guys on the down side, ie Chavez, Pernell, Campos, Mayorga, even Castillejo.

Oscar has a great resume and come September, I'll be rooting like hell for it to be "the night of the jab" so Oscar can put a win over Floyd on his resume. From a personality standpoint, I can't stand PBF and I want to he him humiliated/humbled. Still, facts are facts, Oscar's resume LOOKS much better at the surface level, because you see wins over Chavez, Whitaker, Quartey, and Leija, but Chavez was shot, Whitaker was on the downside, and Quartey was nearly a loss. In his biggest fights, Oscar against prime competition has always come up short, except maybe he got robbed by Mosley.

I respect Oscar a ton more for being willing to take risky fights, staying active, and generally being a good representative for the sport. If you include those as part of his resume, I guess Oscar wins, but if you go just based on the wins and losses, Floyd ranks ahead, unless Oscar adds Floyd to his in the the fall.

I never said Oscar beat all of his opponets I said the resume was better. I also mentioned somewhere I believe that Oscar beat common opponents at a younger stage in their careers. A stage when the win actually was something of accomplishment.

I personally rank Oscars resume better. You may rank Floyd's as better but it is my opinion and I think I am entitled to it. I also mentioned something in my second post in this thread that I was naming the opponents off the top of my head so the fact I left 2 or 3 out is not too bad considering.

I have never heard Floyd openly seek out the best. Never one time have I seen him push for a fight with the best in the division he sat in at the time. Win or lose Oscar has sought out the fights. Floyd did not seek out De La Hoya Oscar pushed him for the fight. Same goes for the Hatton bout. I was a Floyd Mayweather JR fan until he left the 135lb division.

Again he is a fighter with great skills but happy not going at it with dangerous opponents.

You mention him just knocking out the #1 ranked LWW in the world but isn't Floyd officially a welterweight? Should he not be looking for the top welterweight opponents out there? I hope you are not going to start using money and fan appeal as an arguement for that one.

I know if Oscar De La Hoya was fighting at welterweight he would be looking for a fight with Cotto or at least Margarito. Regardless if he won or lost.