Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
Your allowed to clinch for a minute,and if you think youd survive for 5 minutes at the Blue Horizon not clinching,your only fooling yourself.
Dude is your brain already starting to atrophy from all that Tofu? What the hell does this staement have to do with the topic...
Fact#1

Hopkins was showing his age against Taylor, he was starting slow and trying to conserve and it cost him, this trend was becoming progressively stronger, until he fought Tarver and was content with tucking his head and throwing one right hand at a time, clinching holding and hitting.. Wash, rinse and repeat... Same thing against Wright.. Albeit they were all southpaws so I can see him utilizing the straight right, but Christ all mighty!!! He was throwing 15 punches per round and only 3 were legal

Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post

Holyfield even head butted Jeremy Bates for gods sake
Yor really full of shit on this one, seen the fight 5 times and that didnt happen, no more than any other fighters getting an inadvertent clash

If you dont like Holy then just admit it, but dont pontificate the dirtiest player in the game Ric Flair Hopkins, and then dig on Holyfield.. It looks supremely fanboyish and nuttugging