What the fuck is up with Obama's church?!?

[El Kabong]

It shocked me because

#1. I've been to church my entire life and have NEVER been lectured to about politics in church.

#2 I've never heard about race in church

#3 I've never heard anyone berate the United States in church


It always shocks me, whether it's some no drinkin', no dancin', crazy ass Southern Baptist or whether it's some wacko faux muslim from "The Nation"...but it's really crazy it was a Black Liberation preacher, I had never heard of such a thing but I guess it gives an explination to why Sharpton and Jackson get so much face time....they seem more reasonable when compared to Rev. Wright or Pfleger.


I do think Father Pfleger is a very funny character (sad but funny)...I didn't know that wiggers were big into religion...I guess in the future we'll see Father Eminem or Kid Rock or Vanilla Ice....hahaha

[Kirkland Laing]

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

[OumaFan]

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

[El Kabong]

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

That and people might have a REAL issue with what was going on in Obama's church.

If W was sitting in a church with a preacher talking crap about black people ONCE (much less 20 years) then he'd be in a ton of fucking trouble.

[amat]

Just the way it is, its sexier than real issues. Its down to the people really, the media just covers what sells.

That and people might have a REAL issue with what was going on in Obama's church.

If W was sitting in a church with a preacher talking crap about black people ONCE (much less 20 years) then he'd be in a ton of fucking trouble.

Ummm...no matter how you slice it, Obama's church is not a real issue. He could be from the same church as Carlos Maussa it really has no bearing.

[El Kabong]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

[Kirkland Laing]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

If you look a why he joined the church in the firdt place it was down to Chicago politics. He's now left the church anyway, so let's talk about something relevant, like the disaster in Iraq.

[amat]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

Wasn't McCain friends with a Preacher who said the Holocaust was God's work? This is terrible, terrible. How are the Jews going to survive in a country run by McCain?

[cockey cockney]

so when is the general election (isit called that in the states?) happening?! and whats the general feel on it...i gathered Bush is as good as fucked off outta there....so who does it look like is going to take control??

[CFH]

so when is the general election (isit called that in the states?) happening?! and whats the general feel on it...i gathered Bush is as good as fucked off outta there....so who does it look like is going to take control??

Bush has already served two terms, which is unbelievable, so he is not allowed to run again. It's between McCain (Rep) and Obama (Dem).

[cockey cockney]

any indications on whose favourite atm mate? and when exactly does this take place?

[El Kabong]

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

Because the thoughts and ideas coming out of Obama's church are not changes I or anyone else believe in. Anyone believing in what Wright was spewing in his surmons is no different than anyone following any of the crazy white preachers out there.....and I wouldn't vote for any of them either

I can understand and appreciate what the Civil Rights movement did with churches but we're past that era.

[Kirkland Laing]

Who cares about Obama's church? America faces a bunch of serious problems and the media are obsessed over something some fucking priest said. They should try doing their job instead of focusing on irrelevant crap.

Because the thoughts and ideas coming out of Obama's church are not changes I or anyone else believe in. Anyone believing in what Wright was spewing in his surmons is no different than anyone following any of the crazy white preachers out there.....and I wouldn't vote for any of them either

I can understand and appreciate what the Civil Rights movement did with churches but we're past that era.

McCain is backed by a bunch of crazy white preachers. A couple of them became public knowledge and he disowned them, but there are plenty more. Go start a McBush crazy preacher thread.

[OumaFan]

The "black" churches in the South have always been involved in politics, ministers have always been involved in getting out the vote and in a lot of cases steering the vote.

Maybe I'm just a cynic about organized religion but that's kind of a power church if you know what I mean, I suspect if anything Obama used it to network, etc. I know how you're going to respond to that so there's really no reason, yes it would have been smart for him to leave it a couple of years ago.

I think if anything this has shown how much race still plays a part in politics. Hillary's wins in Kentucky and West Virginia had nearly as much to do with race as Obama's wins in Mississippi and Alabama.