What the fuck is up with Obama's church?!?

[Kirkland Laing]

It does if he believes in what Wright and Co. are preaching and then he's running the country he's been hating his entire life A bit counterproductive if you ask me.....a person who loves America.

If you look a why he joined the church in the firdt place it was down to Chicago politics. He's now left the church anyway, so let's talk about something relevant, like the disaster in Iraq.

[OumaFan]

Are you sure its not that he hates America and secretly wants to become President in order to help bring America down from the inside?

[Kirkland Laing]

Are you sure its not that he hates America and secretly wants to become President in order to help bring America down from the inside?

Do you mean McCain or Obama? Or Bush ?

[OumaFan]

I think Bush did his part in bringing down the country through sheer stupidity. Who knows?

[El Kabong]

I think Bush did his part in bringing down the country through sheer stupidity. Who knows?

Obama has just as much experience as W did when he first became President.


Kirkland maybe you could suggest a better Republican candidate than McCain?

And what Democrat do you like? Obama, Clinton, or someone else?

[OumaFan]

Yeah but Bush is an idiot

I'm in graduate school for history, mainly U.S. foreign policy, and I've been reading this book called The Hidden Hand Presidency about Eisenhower and how during his presidency people thought he was kind of out of it and just let his cabinet run everything and played golf all the time when it turned out that (whether you agreed with his policies or not) he was lucid and in control. I sometimes wonder if there will end up being a revisionist history like that about Bush, and we'll find out that he actually wasn't as stupid as he seems. I kind of doubt it.

[El Kabong]

Obama has no experience in foreign policy...McCain DOES!

[CFH]

Yeah but Bush is an idiot

I'm in graduate school for history, mainly U.S. foreign policy, and I've been reading this book called The Hidden Hand Presidency about Eisenhower and how during his presidency people thought he was kind of out of it and just let his cabinet run everything and played golf all the time when it turned out that (whether you agreed with his policies or not) he was lucid and in control. I sometimes wonder if there will end up being a revisionist history like that about Bush, and we'll find out that he actually wasn't as stupid as he seems. I kind of doubt it.

The more I learn about Eisenhower as a President, the more I like him. He was bang on about the developing military-industrial complex.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Bush did his part in bringing down the country through sheer stupidity. Who knows?

Obama has just as much experience as W did when he first became President.


Kirkland maybe you could suggest a better Republican candidate than McCain?

And what Democrat do you like? Obama, Clinton, or someone else?

Chuck Hagel would be a good GOP nominee. Either Obama or Clinton would be fine, although I'd prefer Clinton so she can run on a platform of bringing honour and integrity back to the White House.

McCain is a foreign policy cretin, QED.

[OumaFan]

Obama's only six delegates away. Hillary's apparently starting to talk about accepting the V.P.

[El Kabong]

If you look a why he joined the church in the firdt place it was down to Chicago politics. He's now left the church anyway, so let's talk about something relevant, like the disaster in Iraq.

That makes it better He's willing to sit through THAT to be President?!?! As for the Chicago Politics....maybe we can have a New Tamany Hall if Obama wins.


As for Iraq it will only get worse if we leave too soon....but hey what do I know....let's just let Iran put pressure on Israel allying all the Persian nations against them and then everything will be fine, at least fine for YOU because you don't believe Israel should have that land anyway.