wtf is wrong with you all

[Put Em' Up]

Ouch with the backhand...Got the point.....No doubt many people got there rocks off railing on the duo back and forth.....but they put it out there and ALOT of knowledgeable and some not so knowledgeable posters played along on numerous Site's,tongue in cheek but inevitably we helped to afford them the stage and hype to give it legs and finally happen.....thus promote them.

Kid Thunder is pretty skillset challenged but lower level Journeymen fighters ....be they 1-13 or 9-9 etc are a unfortunate necessary filler for early building resumes.I really think he knows deep down where he stands and falls in the big picture of boxing...I hope.He has the right to ply his Trade....whatever the Level may be.

P.S .....Kid Thunder, Spellcheck ...

I agree on the right to ply his trade regardless of his record and the need for journeymen. I do not agree with the antics, regardless of what level you compete at.

The difference between posters egging things on and this gentleman is that they are not here wondering why they get no respect as a professional fighter.

If this is the type of career or type of boxing scene he wants to be involved in that is his choice and his right. Just don't get in a dizzy when people rag you out.

It is nothing personal I don't know the guy. I am just speaking from a fan who takes the sport serious point of view.

By the way Kick ass Antonio Margarito Sig/Gif

Valid point.Its a sign of the times.The phrase "Reality TV" comes to mind...or U-Tube cometh.PT Barnum would be proud of him Lol.Sad as it may be He called out his opponent promoted it,fed it and gained redundant fugly notoriety ....This is just psuedo Media & exposure catching up.

Let em rag.....might be the most punches he's ever landed

I loss my lunch when I see the Butterbean vs. Kimbo talk.....just me

The Sig Is from Danny.... Diane.Dude has top notch skills

Agreed it is a circus of sorts.

Kimbo Vs Butterbean!!! Isn't The Bean like 50? lol

Kimbo was exposed on television last week as a fighter. He barely made it out of the cage with the win.

[Mar]

Bro you gotta put yourself in our shoes and then ask yourself how you'd react. This whole situation like it or not has turned into a big joke. Maybe more of charlee's fault but you paricipated in the whole thing just as much as he did. There are a ton of amatures out there not recieving this kind of treatment but you put yourself out there open for peoples responses, it's never going to be guaranteed that it will be the responsed you want to hear. I think you too love this whole thing the attention etc personally good or bad.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

put em up n ill whoop that ass... Gary, Indiana style

So far you've told people you were gonna "Murder Ass", "Shoot Ass" and "Whoop Ass"...

You never get tired of ass do ya, kid?

[Von Milash]

I sparred with a guy who sparred with a guy who sparred with a guy that sparred with Mike Tyson.

So I must be the fucking greatest ever.

[Kev]

i dont care what u say or what you think of me im a pro boxer and a real fighter i have fought really good fighters i have fought oisin fagan who has fought paul spadafora and i have fought rodney the pitbull jones who has fought for 4 world tiles such as vacant NABA lightweight title and International Boxing Council lightweight title and WBA Inter-Continental welterweight title also International Boxing Council welterweight title......now oisin fagan has fought for the USBA lightweight title and Oklahoma State Lightweight Title..............so there i have fought them you can see that on my record i dont care who it is i will fight anybody at and time

I respect anyone who has the guts to get in the ring and attempt to pursue his/her goal to be a professional fighter. Win or lose it takes a tremendous amount of guts and heart. It takes even more to get back in there after a loss or two, especially early on in your career. So for that much I give you some respect.

On the other hand.

I do not respect anyone who claims to be a professional fighter and makes a mockery of the sport the way you and Charlie Zelenoff did. Your youtube antics were that of immature high school children. The whole "Trailer Park" title thing was a disgrace. What the two of you did was take a serious sport and turn it into a National Lampoon skit.

To sit and call yourself a professional fighter brings even more shame upon yourself. A professional fighter who has even 1% of serious respect for this game would not have participated in the whole charade.

The whole thing was a joke, it is your own fault that people make fun of you world wide. I would get used to it because after seeing how the whole thing played out over the last few months I don't see things looking up for you.

Your not a professional fighter your a professional fraud. I wish you would get stripped of your license and banned for good.

I also would not go around using the fact that I have spent most of my time involved in this sport as a whipping boy for B class fighters.

At least Charlie Zelenoff knows he is a joke, you are even clueless to that.

I actually feel bad for you.

Get over yourself mate how is what Hartley and Zelenoff did on youtube bringing the sport into disrepute and how is it different from any other prefight antics from established stars on tv?

Tyson got jailed for rape, threatened to ass rape a male journalist, told reporters he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis's children, told a female journalist she couldn't talk to him unless she fucked him first and has been caught driving smashed out of his face on cocaine.

Carlos Monzon killed his wife, Diego Coralles and Sugar Ray Robinson both beat up theirs. Ike Ibeabuchi is in jail for rape and for being a complete mentalist. Harry Simon has killed 5 people through reckless driving. Clifford Ettiene is serving 150 years for attempting to shoot a police officer.

Paul Spadafora was jailed for trying to shoot his girlfriend and James Butler famously murdered Max Kellermans brother.

That's just some of the real serious misdemenours carried out by some boxers.

Then you have convicted killers like Don King promoting the sport, and I doubt many of the other promoters are much better, to say nothing of the sanctioning bodies.

Then we got all the crap during the prefight buildups shown on HBO.

I mean honestly, is was the Zelenoff Hartley affair any more cringeworthy or embarrassing than the current state of the Mayweather family?

Look at Roger and Floyd Sr and tell me they don't come from the exact same trailer park as Hartley did?

How about Mayorga and his prefight comments? Hatton calling Floyd a wanker and making obscene gestures so that Sky had to stop broadcasting?

I really fail to see anything that Hartley and Zelenoff have said or done that is not said and done all the time by the biggest boxing superstars, the only difference is the medium, HBO rather than youtube.

I don't think Hartley has done anything wrong. He's a club fighter with a poor record who probably makes next to no money in the sport. If his popularisation on youtube makes him a bit more popular and earns him a few extra bucks why would begrudge him that?

I've personally found the Zelenoff Harltey rivalry to be highly entertaining, rivalling any prefight buildup for any boxing event in recent years.

Yes it may be a guilty pleasure like watching Big Brother or internet porn but virtually all of you hypocrites have watched all the videos and followed the rivalry and now attempt to distance yourself from it all.

The only reason it became as big as it did is because we all wanted to watch so any pontification and sanctimony from users here is just another example of an escort turning up her nose at a brothel worker and calling her a whore

[boozeboxer]

put em up n ill whoop that ass... Gary, Indiana style

So far you've told people you were gonna "Murder Ass", "Shoot Ass" and "Whoop Ass"...

You never get tired of ass do ya, kid?

Gary, Indiana. For all of you all that were talking bad abotu Hartford Conn., just go to Gary Indiana. It is a cess pool. My suggestion would go at night when the scenery was better.

[boozeboxer]

i dont care what u say or what you think of me im a pro boxer and a real fighter i have fought really good fighters i have fought oisin fagan who has fought paul spadafora and i have fought rodney the pitbull jones who has fought for 4 world tiles such as vacant NABA lightweight title and International Boxing Council lightweight title and WBA Inter-Continental welterweight title also International Boxing Council welterweight title......now oisin fagan has fought for the USBA lightweight title and Oklahoma State Lightweight Title..............so there i have fought them you can see that on my record i dont care who it is i will fight anybody at and time

I respect anyone who has the guts to get in the ring and attempt to pursue his/her goal to be a professional fighter. Win or lose it takes a tremendous amount of guts and heart. It takes even more to get back in there after a loss or two, especially early on in your career. So for that much I give you some respect.

On the other hand.

I do not respect anyone who claims to be a professional fighter and makes a mockery of the sport the way you and Charlie Zelenoff did. Your youtube antics were that of immature high school children. The whole "Trailer Park" title thing was a disgrace. What the two of you did was take a serious sport and turn it into a National Lampoon skit.

To sit and call yourself a professional fighter brings even more shame upon yourself. A professional fighter who has even 1% of serious respect for this game would not have participated in the whole charade.

The whole thing was a joke, it is your own fault that people make fun of you world wide. I would get used to it because after seeing how the whole thing played out over the last few months I don't see things looking up for you.

Your not a professional fighter your a professional fraud. I wish you would get stripped of your license and banned for good.

I also would not go around using the fact that I have spent most of my time involved in this sport as a whipping boy for B class fighters.

At least Charlie Zelenoff knows he is a joke, you are even clueless to that.

I actually feel bad for you.

Get over yourself mate how is what Hartley and Zelenoff did on youtube bringing the sport into disrepute and how is it different from any other prefight antics from established stars on tv?

Tyson got jailed for rape, threatened to ass rape a male journalist, told reporters he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis's children, told a female journalist she couldn't talk to him unless she fucked him first and has been caught driving smashed out of his face on cocaine.

Carlos Monzon killed his wife, Diego Coralles and Sugar Ray Robinson both beat up theirs. Ike Ibeabuchi is in jail for rape and for being a complete mentalist. Harry Simon has killed 5 people through reckless driving. Clifford Ettiene is serving 150 years for attempting to shoot a police officer.

Paul Spadafora was jailed for trying to shoot his girlfriend and James Butler famously murdered Max Kellermans brother.

That's just some of the real serious misdemenours carried out by some boxers.

Then you have convicted killers like Don King promoting the sport, and I doubt many of the other promoters are much better, to say nothing of the sanctioning bodies.

Then we got all the crap during the prefight buildups shown on HBO.

I mean honestly, is was the Zelenoff Hartley affair any more cringeworthy or embarrassing than the current state of the Mayweather family?

Look at Roger and Floyd Sr and tell me they don't come from the exact same trailer park as Hartley did?

How about Mayorga and his prefight comments? Hatton calling Floyd a wanker and making obscene gestures so that Sky had to stop broadcasting?

I really fail to see anything that Hartley and Zelenoff have said or done that is not said and done all the time by the biggest boxing superstars, the only difference is the medium, HBO rather than youtube.

I don't think Hartley has done anything wrong. He's a club fighter with a poor record who probably makes next to no money in the sport. If his popularisation on youtube makes him a bit more popular and earns him a few extra bucks why would begrudge him that?

I've personally found the Zelenoff Harltey rivalry to be highly entertaining, rivalling any prefight buildup for any boxing event in recent years.

Yes it may be a guilty pleasure like watching Big Brother or internet porn but virtually all of you hypocrites have watched all the videos and followed the rivalry and now attempt to distance yourself from it all.

The only reason it became as big as it did is because we all wanted to watch so any pontification and sanctimony from users here is just another example of an escort turning up her nose at a brothel worker and calling her a whore

The difference is Tyson, Munzon, Corrales actually have paid the dues and were very talented. This guy is a no-talent ass clown. I am don't care what bad things these other boxers do, I find it tragically appealing.

[Trainer Monkey]

This is still going on?
The guys a lunger with no defense and a crap record,who begged to be smacked in the nose on here,and in the ring.
Well both have happened.
Hell when I first came on here,I took a couple on the snout,he's taken his,lets see if he can recover

[Douglas]

put em up n ill whoop that ass... Gary, Indiana style

So far you've told people you were gonna "Murder Ass", "Shoot Ass" and "Whoop Ass"...

You never get tired of ass do ya, kid?

I'm sure he's gonna eat ass(paragus).

[boozeboxer]

put em up n ill whoop that ass... Gary, Indiana style

So far you've told people you were gonna "Murder Ass", "Shoot Ass" and "Whoop Ass"...

You never get tired of ass do ya, kid?

I'm sure he's gonna eat ass(paragus).

And ponder his ASSinine posts and question his ASSaulting abilities.

[Douglas]

So far you've told people you were gonna "Murder Ass", "Shoot Ass" and "Whoop Ass"...

You never get tired of ass do ya, kid?

I'm sure he's gonna eat ass(paragus).

And ponder his ASSinine posts and question his ASSaulting abilities.

And I'm ASSuming he's gonna ASSk why.

[amat]

I read somewhere that two of the guys he got KO'd against hadn't even been in a ring ever in their life when they fought this guy and one guy beat him wearing gloves for the first time haha. and this is the guy Charlie lost to

That was Stacy Goodson who said those things too.

[Dark Lord Al]

i dont care what u say or what you think of me im a pro boxer and a real fighter i have fought really good fighters i have fought oisin fagan who has fought paul spadafora and i have fought rodney the pitbull jones who has fought for 4 world tiles such as vacant NABA lightweight title and International Boxing Council lightweight title and WBA Inter-Continental welterweight title also International Boxing Council welterweight title......now oisin fagan has fought for the USBA lightweight title and Oklahoma State Lightweight Title..............so there i have fought them you can see that on my record i dont care who it is i will fight anybody at and time

I HEARD A RUMOUR , IS IT TRUE YOUR CHIN IS SO WEAK YOU KNOCKED YOURSELF OUT SHAVING ?

[Douglas]

i dont care what u say or what you think of me im a pro boxer and a real fighter i have fought really good fighters i have fought oisin fagan who has fought paul spadafora and i have fought rodney the pitbull jones who has fought for 4 world tiles such as vacant NABA lightweight title and International Boxing Council lightweight title and WBA Inter-Continental welterweight title also International Boxing Council welterweight title......now oisin fagan has fought for the USBA lightweight title and Oklahoma State Lightweight Title..............so there i have fought them you can see that on my record i dont care who it is i will fight anybody at and time

I HEARD A RUMOUR , IS IT TRUE YOUR CHIN IS SO WEAK YOU KNOCKED YOURSELF OUT SHAVING ?

I've cut myself a few times, but never been knocked out.

[Spicoli]

Man,you guys are brutal .....railing on Kid Thunder AKA 'Mini-Slaw' endlessly.He'll never live it down at his next Backwoods City fair Title fight