Mora won't beat Forrest...

[El Gamo]

Woah! You guys are weird?! Forrest looked ok v 2 pensioners, but Mora fought bigger guys and was motivated. I picked Forrest via points but check the other threads, I knew for sure it wouldn't be a beating for Mora!Mora beat Forrest ass imo.

And I don't see Mora being champ for long. He needs big fights but he'll probably lose in the smaller fights(he comes across as the kind of guy that needs huge motivation to perform)

Oh come on... And this isn't just directed at you, it's at everyone who picked Mora to win. How could anyone have possibly known that Forrest would look like absolute garbage and have aged 10 years since his last fight, beforehand Based on the form Forrest showed against Baldomir and Picchirilo, Forrest would have beaten Mora handily. To pretend otherwise is completely pretentious.

Well.and this is aimed at you, I've written quiet a few times that Vernon has not looked as good as he used to BEFORE this fight took place. Just because he looked decent at best v dinosaurs didn't mean he was going to beat Mora. I wasn't going to blindly follow everyone else proclaiming Vernon was the man etc etc just because of wins over Baldo and Piccirillo,2 punching bags.

And just because Mora looked bad in his last 2 fights didn't mean he was not going to win. I've been reading ALOT about Sergio's sparring with Margarito,Angulo,Kirkland etc and how he holds his own against them all so I thought he had a decent chance of winning.

Doug Fischer is the best writer and maybe the most knowledgeable boxing fan in the world. He called Mora winning,he stated the reasons why and he was right.

[p4pking]

Woah! You guys are weird?! Forrest looked ok v 2 pensioners, but Mora fought bigger guys and was motivated. I picked Forrest via points but check the other threads, I knew for sure it wouldn't be a beating for Mora!Mora beat Forrest ass imo.

And I don't see Mora being champ for long. He needs big fights but he'll probably lose in the smaller fights(he comes across as the kind of guy that needs huge motivation to perform)

Oh come on... And this isn't just directed at you, it's at everyone who picked Mora to win. How could anyone have possibly known that Forrest would look like absolute garbage and have aged 10 years since his last fight, beforehand Based on the form Forrest showed against Baldomir and Picchirilo, Forrest would have beaten Mora handily. To pretend otherwise is completely pretentious.

Well.and this is aimed at you, I've written quiet a few times that Vernon has not looked as good as he used to BEFORE this fight took place. Just because he looked decent at best v dinosaurs didn't mean he was going to beat Mora. I wasn't going to blindly follow everyone else proclaiming Vernon was the man etc etc just because of wins over Baldo and Piccirillo,2 punching bags.

And just because Mora looked bad in his last 2 fights didn't mean he was not going to win. I've been reading ALOT about Sergio's sparring with Margarito,Angulo,Kirkland etc and how he holds his own against them all so I thought he had a decent chance of winning.

Doug Fischer is the best writer and maybe the most knowledgeable boxing fan in the world. He called Mora winning,he stated the reasons why and he was right.

Ok, seen the fight now. And I mantain, tHere is no way anyone can tell me Forrest looked just as good last night as he did against Baldomir or Pichirrilo, or even close. Not saying those two were that good of opponents but that doesn't mean Forrest had to look very good against them. Last night he just looked ancient, showed very little to me, and even still won the early rounds and made it very, very close. Mora is not a top fighter, I thought Forrest still was. Obviously I was wrong about that. I mean if people picked Mora based on something they KNEW about Forrest, say they had the inside scoop that he was losing it, or didn't get up for the fight, then sure I'll give them credit for the pick. But it seemed the only people who picked MOra were sort of going out on a limb, or just picking the unpopular fighter for the hell of it *cough* Majesty *cough*.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

I had Lacy thouroughly beating Manfredo. He outworked him throughout the fight.

[gyrokai]

I'm not here to say I'm Nostrodamus, but I'm going to tell you why
I thought it was an easy pick... besides the obvious, Vernon slower, older, Mora faster younger.

I saw Mora fight Manfredo and it was a pretty technical fight. More than most admitted. Manfredo had a great future. Young, fast, great head movement... it's just that he went UP in weight to 168. ... WHAT THE F#CK IS HE CRAZY! He's an idiot. Most the the guys from The Contender were idiots. They never fought at the weight that set them up to win at it's most optimum. Gomez just isn't good. He's a six rounder guy, entertaining for a short time, but in the long run he has no power and he'll run out of gas after six. Most of the guys that come from the contender were spoiled and, some were very talented, but the contender taught them how to do everything backwards.

So Mora was labeled a Contender guy, a Pretender. He's the only one who really took the sacrafice and went DOWN and weight AND had the skills to back it up, unlike Gomez. (And Gomez fought a future Hall of Famer in Cotto) (btw I only really follow the first season guys, but most guys on the contender volumes turn out duds)

And Vernon isn't good at all. He never was in his prime.... he lost to a Ricardo Mayora! haha And Ricardo was just another dud who got famous from Vernon. If Shane Mosely fought the way he does now, more aggressive and smart, he would have beaten Forrest, but back then Shane was very tentative and hesitant with Vernon. Vernon had a GREAT one-two. And in the past that's all he needed. But these days that one-two is just a little bit slower. And Mora had the head movement to upset that one-two that EVERYBODY knows Vernon throws.

That and it didn't hurt that Buddy McGirt trained Forrest.

[RozzySean]

I'm not here to say I'm Nostrodamus, but I'm going to tell you why
I thought it was an easy pick... besides the obvious, Vernon slower, older, Mora faster younger.

I saw Mora fight Manfredo and it was a pretty technical fight. More than most admitted. Manfredo had a great future. Young, fast, great head movement... it's just that he went UP in weight to 168. ... WHAT THE F#CK IS HE CRAZY! He's an idiot. Most the the guys from The Contender were idiots. They never fought at the weight that set them up to win at it's most optimum. Gomez just isn't good. He's a six rounder guy, entertaining for a short time, but in the long run he has no power and he'll run out of gas after six. Most of the guys that come from the contender were spoiled and, some were very talented, but the contender taught them how to do everything backwards.

So Mora was labeled a Contender guy, a Pretender. He's the only one who really took the sacrafice and went DOWN and weight AND had the skills to back it up, unlike Gomez. (And Gomez fought a future Hall of Famer in Cotto) (btw I only really follow the first season guys, but most guys on the contender volumes turn out duds)

And Vernon isn't good at all. He never was in his prime.... he lost to a Ricardo Mayora! haha And Ricardo was just another dud who got famous from Vernon. If Shane Mosely fought the way he does now, more aggressive and smart, he would have beaten Forrest, but back then Shane was very tentative and hesitant with Vernon. Vernon had a GREAT one-two. And in the past that's all he needed. But these days that one-two is just a little bit slower. And Mora had the head movement to upset that one-two that EVERYBODY knows Vernon throws.

That and it didn't hurt that Buddy McGirt trained Forrest.

I had remembered that McGirt trains Forrest, I would have picked Mora