Calzaghe - Pavlik on 18th Oct

[hitmanhatton]

surely not ?? you can win titles in two different weight divisons in one fight

definitely, if you are under the prescribed weight. And were not talking alphabet trinkets, which I am sure have a rule against it, were talking about the real world championships/The Ring.

but how can you be seen as the best fighter in the lightheavyweight division for example if youve never foguht past 168 ?

[Youngblood]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

[southakron314]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

I want this fight to happen . I want to see Joe embarrassed i n his home country. He is cocky. Has no respect and he is cushioned.

[Phil]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

I want this fight to happen . I want to see Joe embarrassed i n his home country. He is cocky. Has no respect and he is cushioned.

Don't think Joe is cocky, he's confident and should be because he's beaten everyone he's faced, what makes u say he's no respect?
after the Kessler fight he had nothing but respect for Kessler, can't see Pavlik embarrasing him either, he could win by ko yeah,but can't see him out working Joe. To be honest your sounding just like the Lacy fans were sounding before he fought Joe

[boozeboxer]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

I want this fight to happen . I want to see Joe embarrassed i n his home country. He is cocky. Has no respect and he is cushioned.

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

[superheavyrhun]

Although as my sig suggests, I'm a big Calzaghe fan, I'm torn as to whether I'd want this fight to happen. There have been a few times where I've been worried Joe has bitten off more than he can chew, and each time he's proved me wrong, but I've got that same twisting feeling in my gut on this one.

Lockett was easy to hit, and didn't have as firm a chin as Calzaghe, but PAvlik did the job big time on him, and as always looks to have a firm punch. Don't get me wrong, I'd love the fight to be made, and it would be an amazing spectacle, if it's held in the UK or the US, and either way there's going to be huge contingents of travelling fans for both men.

If it happens, I'm not going to have any nails for th next few years, as i gnaw them into little stubs on my fingers.

[Pavlik]

I have all respect to Joe. His conditioning is awesomme so does Kelly, His chin is awesomme so does Kelly, His workrate is awesomme so does Kelly, His skills is awesomme so does Kelly.
No Offense to Joe but his handspeed is going to be neutralized by Kelly's straighter and more powerful punches. Kelly's defense looks to be getting better too
Oh shit I sound a lil biased

[littlebif]

I have all respect to Joe. His conditioning is awesomme so does Kelly, His chin is awesomme so does Kelly, His workrate is awesomme so does Kelly, His skills is awesomme so does Kelly.
No Offense to Joe but his handspeed is going to be neutralized by Kelly's straighter and more powerful punches. Kelly's defense looks to be getting better too
Oh shit I sound a lil biased

Calzaghe is alot more skilled than Pavlik!

[CFH]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

I want this fight to happen . I want to see Joe embarrassed i n his home country. He is cocky. Has no respect and he is cushioned.

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

I agree, I also love the fact that Calzaghe's record is "padded", but Pavlik is "Godzilla". Seriously, who the fuck has Pavlik fought who is better than Kessler or Hopkins? Aside from Taylor and a weight-drained Miranda, he's fought nobody of any real significance and his record is as padded as anyones.

[Kirkland Laing]

This would not be an easy fight for Joe. I'd still pick him to win but it's a hell of a challenge at the end of his career. He has nothing to prove so should take an easier fight to guarantee retiring undefeated.

[Pavlik]

I want this fight to happen . I want to see Joe embarrassed i n his home country. He is cocky. Has no respect and he is cushioned.

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

I agree, I also love the fact that Calzaghe's record is "padded", but Pavlik is "Godzilla". Seriously, who the fuck has Pavlik fought who is better than Kessler or Hopkins? Aside from Taylor and a weight-drained Miranda, he's fought nobody of any real significance and his record is as padded as anyones.

Taylor beat Hopkins twice though close and controversial on the other hand Kelly's performance against taylor was light years better than that of Hopkins vs Taylor. Miranda weight drained, he was dropped from a CONCUSSIVE shot not from sheer exhaustion.
Joe beating an older version of Hopkins via close decision, beating a Lacy who'm afterwards was winning via decisions against B level fighters. Kessler who hasnt fought any great American middleweight or super middleweight.
To Joe's credit he is undefeated for so long but for such a short time in Pavlik's career his accomplishments is almost as great as that of Joe.

[BIG H]

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

I agree, I also love the fact that Calzaghe's record is "padded", but Pavlik is "Godzilla". Seriously, who the fuck has Pavlik fought who is better than Kessler or Hopkins? Aside from Taylor and a weight-drained Miranda, he's fought nobody of any real significance and his record is as padded as anyones.

Taylor beat Hopkins twice though close and controversial on the other hand Kelly's performance against taylor was light years better than that of Hopkins vs Taylor. Miranda weight drained, he was dropped from a CONCUSSIVE shot not from sheer exhaustion.
Joe beating an older version of Hopkins via close decision, beating a Lacy who'm afterwards was winning via decisions against B level fighters. Kessler who hasnt fought any great American middleweight or super middleweight.
To Joe's credit he is undefeated for so long but for such a short time in Pavlik's career his accomplishments is almost as great as that of Joe.

[CFH]

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

I agree, I also love the fact that Calzaghe's record is "padded", but Pavlik is "Godzilla". Seriously, who the fuck has Pavlik fought who is better than Kessler or Hopkins? Aside from Taylor and a weight-drained Miranda, he's fought nobody of any real significance and his record is as padded as anyones.

Taylor beat Hopkins twice though close and controversial on the other hand Kelly's performance against taylor was light years better than that of Hopkins vs Taylor. Miranda weight drained, he was dropped from a CONCUSSIVE shot not from sheer exhaustion.
Joe beating an older version of Hopkins via close decision, beating a Lacy who'm afterwards was winning via decisions against B level fighters. Kessler who hasnt fought any great American middleweight or super middleweight.
To Joe's credit he is undefeated for so long but for such a short time in Pavlik's career his accomplishments is almost as great as that of Joe.

In regards to the differences in the Hopkins-Taylor and Taylor-Pavlik fights, styles make fights. It doesn't matter how Pavlik beat Taylor, if we want to go down that road, Pavlik was almost stopped by Taylor, Hopkins was never in any danger of being dropped, let alone stopped, against Taylor.

Calzaghe fought the best American SMW at the time in Lacy, a guy the majority of people were picking to win, and embarrassed him with one of the most one-sided beat downs I have ever seen. He then goes on to beat Kessler, who was clearly the #2 man in the division. And what does being American have to do with anything? A good fighter is a good fighter, regardless of nationality. Who's the best current U.S. SMW, Green? Taylor? Lacy? Mundine was better than any US SMW at the time Kessler beat him. How would Kessler beating an American SMW increase his status any? Because they're American? Fuck off with that nationalistic bullshit.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

I like Pavlik but you fans are getting as bad as Hatton's boys.

I agree, I also love the fact that Calzaghe's record is "padded", but Pavlik is "Godzilla". Seriously, who the fuck has Pavlik fought who is better than Kessler or Hopkins? Aside from Taylor and a weight-drained Miranda, he's fought nobody of any real significance and his record is as padded as anyones.

Taylor beat Hopkins twice though close and controversial on the other hand Kelly's performance against taylor was light years better than that of Hopkins vs Taylor. Miranda weight drained, he was dropped from a CONCUSSIVE shot not from sheer exhaustion.
Joe beating an older version of Hopkins via close decision, beating a Lacy who'm afterwards was winning via decisions against B level fighters. Kessler who hasnt fought any great American middleweight or super middleweight.
To Joe's credit he is undefeated for so long but for such a short time in Pavlik's career his accomplishments is almost as great as that of Joe.

You have your opinion but i had Taylor beating Hopkins handily in both fights and calzaghe beating him decisively.

[:::PSL:::]

This will not happen. I hope it does though. My selfish, saddistic side wants to see it.

From what I've seen of Joe he is fighting an older man's boxing match, using his head and his heart to carry him to victory. Put him in with Pavlik at a weight somewhere in the middle for them, and I believe he would get brutalized. I can't see Enzo letting that happen.

Agreed!