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Taylor beat Hopkins twice though close and controversial on the other hand Kelly's performance against taylor was light years better than that of Hopkins vs Taylor. Miranda weight drained, he was dropped from a CONCUSSIVE shot not from sheer exhaustion.
Joe beating an older version of Hopkins via close decision, beating a Lacy who'm afterwards was winning via decisions against B level fighters. Kessler who hasnt fought any great American middleweight or super middleweight.
To Joe's credit he is undefeated for so long but for such a short time in Pavlik's career his accomplishments is almost as great as that of Joe.
what I meant was Lacy after getting beat by Joe was winning aginst B level fighters. Proving the point that Lacy is exactly not "ALL THAT". If Lacy was that good he should've redeemed himslef with back to back great wins but he didnt.
I suppose Ali, should've redeemed himself after lsoing to Holmes

There is NO WAY back from a beating like Lacy took