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    Default Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Calzaghe can beat Pavlik. But Calzaghe cannot afford to fight like he did against Hopkins. I thought Calzaghe won by a couple of rounds but there were things that have made me think a little.

    Calzaghe with his A game decisions Pavlik handily...
    Remember though Pavlik and Hopkins are opposites.

    Ultra defensive compared with ultra offensive.

    Win or lose Calzaghe will look better than he did against Hopkins... well sorta, he wont look good sparked out but I doubt that will happen

    Calzaghe has a good chin and we all know I'm not a hater... Quite to the contrary I think Joe C is a great champ...

    But make no mistake, he has NEVER fought anybody with the pop Kelly has...

    People keep mentioning Kessler above. Kessler, although his record shows a 74% KO winning percentage, look who they're against... Used up war horses and tomato cans...

    Kessler is actually a very well schooled technical boxer... More that then anything... He is not the power puncher people make him out to be...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Calzaghe can beat Pavlik. But Calzaghe cannot afford to fight like he did against Hopkins. I thought Calzaghe won by a couple of rounds but there were things that have made me think a little.

    Calzaghe with his A game decisions Pavlik handily...
    Remember though Pavlik and Hopkins are opposites.

    Ultra defensive compared with ultra offensive.

    Win or lose Calzaghe will look better than he did against Hopkins... well sorta, he wont look good sparked out but I doubt that will happen

    Calzaghe has a good chin and we all know I'm not a hater... Quite to the contrary I think Joe C is a great champ...

    But make no mistake, he has NEVER fought anybody with the pop Kelly has...

    People keep mentioning Kessler above. Kessler, although his record shows a 74% KO winning percentage, look who they're against... Used up war horses and tomato cans...

    Kessler is actually a very well schooled technical boxer... More that then anything... He is not the power puncher people make him out to be...
    And the bulk of Pavlik's KO's have not come against inferior comp?

    Pavlik is a hard puncher, for sure, but he's KO'd a gassed Taylor. The only other fighter worth a mention is Miranda. Ancient old Howard Eastman had Miranda rocking all over the shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    Remember though Pavlik and Hopkins are opposites.

    Ultra defensive compared with ultra offensive.

    Win or lose Calzaghe will look better than he did against Hopkins... well sorta, he wont look good sparked out but I doubt that will happen

    Calzaghe has a good chin and we all know I'm not a hater... Quite to the contrary I think Joe C is a great champ...

    But make no mistake, he has NEVER fought anybody with the pop Kelly has...

    People keep mentioning Kessler above. Kessler, although his record shows a 74% KO winning percentage, look who they're against... Used up war horses and tomato cans...

    Kessler is actually a very well schooled technical boxer... More that then anything... He is not the power puncher people make him out to be...
    And the bulk of Pavlik's KO's have not come against inferior comp?

    Pavlik is a hard puncher, for sure, but he's KO'd a gassed Taylor. The only other fighter worth a mention is Miranda. Ancient old Howard Eastman had Miranda rocking all over the shop
    No, that's not being disputed... and Taylor wasn't out of gas... He got caught and finished... plain and simple. They were both tired.

    I'm not disputing the fact that Pavilk has a padded record also but my point was that Kessler is not as hard a puncher as people make him out to be...

    Kelly KO'd Miranda... a decent feat... Especially under the shelling he was getting in return... And Taylor is a tremendous fighter with good power that had already almost put him down for good... Kelly beat the man who beat the man twice... Kessler beat....................... Markus Beyer...

    You know what I'm sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    Calzaghe has a good chin and we all know I'm not a hater... Quite to the contrary I think Joe C is a great champ...

    But make no mistake, he has NEVER fought anybody with the pop Kelly has...

    People keep mentioning Kessler above. Kessler, although his record shows a 74% KO winning percentage, look who they're against... Used up war horses and tomato cans...

    Kessler is actually a very well schooled technical boxer... More that then anything... He is not the power puncher people make him out to be...
    And the bulk of Pavlik's KO's have not come against inferior comp?

    Pavlik is a hard puncher, for sure, but he's KO'd a gassed Taylor. The only other fighter worth a mention is Miranda. Ancient old Howard Eastman had Miranda rocking all over the shop
    No, that's not being disputed... and Taylor wasn't out of gas... He got caught and finished... plain and simple. They were both tired.

    I'm not disputing the fact that Pavilk has a padded record also but my point was that Kessler is not as hard a puncher as people make him out to be...

    Kelly KO'd Miranda... a decent feat... Especially under the shelling he was getting in return... And Taylor is a tremendous fighter with good power that had already almost put him down for good... Kelly beat the man who beat the man twice... Kessler beat....................... Markus Beyer...

    You know what I'm sayin...

    I'd fancy Kessler to KO Taylor too. Miranda definitely. I couldn't see Taylor almost having Kessler KO'd though. Kessler's chin is clearly far stronger than Kelly's.

    You know what i'm saying, right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    And the bulk of Pavlik's KO's have not come against inferior comp?

    Pavlik is a hard puncher, for sure, but he's KO'd a gassed Taylor. The only other fighter worth a mention is Miranda. Ancient old Howard Eastman had Miranda rocking all over the shop
    No, that's not being disputed... and Taylor wasn't out of gas... He got caught and finished... plain and simple. They were both tired.

    I'm not disputing the fact that Pavilk has a padded record also but my point was that Kessler is not as hard a puncher as people make him out to be...

    Kelly KO'd Miranda... a decent feat... Especially under the shelling he was getting in return... And Taylor is a tremendous fighter with good power that had already almost put him down for good... Kelly beat the man who beat the man twice... Kessler beat....................... Markus Beyer...

    You know what I'm sayin...

    I'd fancy Kessler to KO Taylor too. Miranda definitely. I couldn't see Taylor almost having Kessler KO'd though. Kessler's chin is clearly far stronger than Kelly's.

    You know what i'm saying, right
    I'd have to say those are pretty fair asumptions... I'd have to agree... With the exception of Kessler KOing Taylor. I may be giving Taylor a tad to much credit but... I don't see that haoppening. It's possible and Kessler is quite skilled and strong so maybe...

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    BigH is a lurker... He just lurks... Watching like a creepy old man outside a victoria's secret
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    Default Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????

    Glad to see you agree with Fenster.

    You think Kessler would KO Kelly now as well, right?

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