Abraham headed to Miami!

[SigmaMu]

YES! About time this rematch is made.

Should be a good scrap and I am going to have to go with Miranda on this one. Their first scarp was just nasty on many fronts. I hope things don't get out of hand again. I would love to hear.....

AND NEW!



No one can talk shiet about AA not wanting to leave Europe anymore. I have to give the Europeans some credit for starting to come over more often.

As far as I know this isn't a title fight...so even if Miranda wins AA won't loose his title...I think its because of the catchweight...

I think Abraham wins by stoppage.

Me too...

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

[p4pking]

YES! About time this rematch is made.

Should be a good scrap and I am going to have to go with Miranda on this one. Their first scarp was just nasty on many fronts. I hope things don't get out of hand again. I would love to hear.....

AND NEW!



No one can talk shiet about AA not wanting to leave Europe anymore. I have to give the Europeans some credit for starting to come over more often.

As far as I know this isn't a title fight...so even if Miranda wins AA won't loose his title...I think its because of the catchweight...

I think Abraham wins by stoppage.

Me too...

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

I heard originally that it was at a catchweight of 166... Would be very shocked to hear it was at 160 for the belt, didn't think Miranda felt strong at the weight anymore... Maybe it was just an excuse after he lost to Pavlik?

[JohnnyKickAss]

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

I heard originally that it was at a catchweight of 166... Would be very shocked to hear it was at 160 for the belt, didn't think Miranda felt strong at the weight anymore... Maybe it was just an excuse after he lost to Pavlik?

This is also from fightnews:

Q&A: Arthur Abraham!

The weight limit will be 166 pounds which means you do not have to watch your weight that carefully this time out. Is that good for you?
"Definitely. I feel even stronger. Making weight can be a real torture but I do not have to do it this time.”




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[Mar]

Win or loose abraham is getting some respect here. Taking on miranda right now for his first fight for the U.S. fans i don't think is a great idea. I think miranda has dreamed about this re-match since the first night after the loss. Abraham is not playing it safe that for sure.

[Master]

I agree with Legion and Mar, never thought he would come to the US and fight at the higher weight. Whilst I may be supporting Miranda I have to respect Abraham's and would not mind if he won.

[Cortez The Killer]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

[Cortez The Killer]

Miranda has home field advantage. He has fought his past two fights at the Seminole Hard Rock in Florida and KTFO both of his opponents there. Going to be a tough night for Abraham win or lose.

[CFH]

I've never seen the first fight, but got the impression that Abraham wanted to quit, his corner didn't let him, and Miranda was tearing him up pretty bad both legally and illegally.

Got the impression Germany was protecting Abraham...wasnt Miranda docked 5-6 points that fight?

Anyone seen it in it's entirety?

I would expect Miranda to tear Abraham a new one if the first fight even generally how I read it did.

But things have changed since then, Abraham fought better competition including that brutal KO of Gevor and Miranda was dismantled by Pavlik and said he felt drained and weak at 160.

But Abraham must be feeling confident to come to the US against a man that might have rightfully beat him (at least beat him up).

Going to predict that Abraham takes this UD...maybe even late KO. But Miranda is always dangerous and will be out for blood so who knows..

You should check out the fight, it was a barn-burner. I though Abraham actually got the better of Miranda, and had it not been for the broken jaw (which Miranda exasperated by repeatedly butting Abraham) I think Miranda would've got stopped. Abraham rocked him several times and outboxed him for much of the fight. I believe Miranda was docked 5 points, he deserved some deductions, but 5 point was complete bullshit (shouldn't someone be DQ'd if you have to take that many points anyways?). However, ever without the point deductions it would have been at worse a majority draw (according to an article I have read) or a majority decision for Abraham (according to boxrec). It probably should have been a TKO for Miranda though, considering he broke Abraham's jaw with a punch I believe.

[Wayne]

YES! About time this rematch is made.

Should be a good scrap and I am going to have to go with Miranda on this one. Their first scarp was just nasty on many fronts. I hope things don't get out of hand again. I would love to hear.....

AND NEW!



No one can talk shiet about AA not wanting to leave Europe anymore. I have to give the Europeans some credit for starting to come over more often.

As far as I know this isn't a title fight...so even if Miranda wins AA won't loose his title...I think its because of the catchweight...

I think Abraham wins by stoppage.

Me too...

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

It is not a title fight. Edison is at SMW now with no intention of going back to MW. I'd like to know the politics behind how this match was made. Either Abraham has a ton of guts and feels he has something to prove (I hear the homecooking in Germany is fantastic), by not only rematching Miranda, but doing it outside of his normal weight and in Miranda's backyard or some major green was laid down.

Showtime is going to rebroadcast the first fight before the rematch. I forget when exactly.

[Pantera]

As far as I know this isn't a title fight...so even if Miranda wins AA won't loose his title...I think its because of the catchweight...



Me too...

Ok when I was checking BoxRec, I thought it was a catch weight too but it is listed as a title fight.

WTF!?

I think Edison is coming back down to 160 :

It is not a title fight. Edison is at SMW now with no intention of going back to MW. I'd like to know the politics behind how this match was made. Either Abraham has a ton of guts and feels he has something to prove (I hear the homecooking in Germany is fantastic), by not only rematching Miranda, but doing it outside of his normal weight and in Miranda's backyard or some major green was laid down.

Showtime is going to rebroadcast the first fight before the rematch. I forget when exactly.

June 16th on Showtime II at 10pm est
June 19th on Showtime II at 10pm est
June 21st on Showtime at 6pm est (same day as the rematch!)