So what is now your revised p4p top 10???

[CFH]

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure.


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this?

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

I was thinking of putting him in the #10 spot on my list, but out of the 45 fights he has 2 or 3 wins that are truly impressive. He was badly outclassed against PBF as well. I like Hatton, but until he beats someone of note he is off my list.

[GAME]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment but there could be some interesting developments if as he says his next fight is his last

Pav looks on the up, Cotto is too and maybe Juanma may become a superstar in years to come. Oscar may have a final assult on the p4p ratings too if Hatton changes his mind and fights him .

[SE7EN]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

Why's that?

[GAME]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

Why's that?

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

[SE7EN]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

Why's that?

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

Well, Sven Ottke must be 1 or 2 spots behind him then. Cuz he defended his title more than Calz did.

Since we're already in this silly conversation, why don't we throw in Chris John! he is undefeated and defended his title and beat JMM...shouldnt that 1 win against a legend already make him p4p king?

Thats funny cause thats all Calzaghe has is a win against a faded legend who is in his mid 40s!.. Not late 20s,.. but mid 40s.

[CFH]

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

Why's that?

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

[GAME]

Why's that?

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

[CFH]

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

Pac hasn't been KO'd since he moved up in weight, which played a huge role in him being stopped. The only other fighter he has lost to is an ATG in Morales. He's drawn with and beat JMM, another P4P fighter, beaten Barrera, and he's sought the highest level of competition for the last several years. The same cannot be said about Calzaghe. I assume Hopkins is the American legend you referred to on Calzaghe's record, but like you said he's old and well past his prime. Aside from old B-Hop, Lacy, Eubanks, and Kessler are the best names on Calzaghe's record, all quality fighters for sure, but they pale in comparison to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez.

[SE7EN]

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

[C-Lo]

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

Actually GAME, you started it...

...people get attacked here when they say things and then can't back up their statements. You def started this whole thing..