What will Wlad have to do to make your Top 10 PFP?

[Fenster]

But that's still assuming Pac could take a HW punch and could lug around that extra weight. If you make adjustments for that, then perhaps comparable adjustments could be made for Klitschko to be a force at 130. At 110 pounds lighter he could be a great deal faster. Judge him for who he is where he is not for what other fighters are in their classes.

OK.. so take the best and worst attributes of both fighters. Morph them into a weight-class where their size and weight is leveled (halfway) - then pick the winner?

I make Pac an EASY winner.

[HattonTheHammer]

But that's still assuming Pac could take a HW punch and could lug around that extra weight. If you make adjustments for that, then perhaps comparable adjustments could be made for Klitschko to be a force at 130. At 110 pounds lighter he could be a great deal faster. Judge him for who he is where he is not for what other fighters are in their classes.

OK.. so take the best and worst attributes of both fighters. Morph them into a weight-class where their size and weight is leveled (halfway) - then pick the winner?

I make Pac an EASY winner.

But then your still working from a theoretical standpoint.

Would pacs speed advance with him to say a dead 160, understandably there would be some kind of decline in his work rate. But would that extra weight prove to slow him down more than the norm.

Would Wlad lose his ability to throw that jab 20-30 times a round if he was fighting at a lower weight and had to rely more on countering with the right.

Its only ever fair to compare fighters in the same weight class, P4P rankings are all good as your judging each on their individual abilitys and accomplishments.

But P4P is still no more than various judgements!!

[Fenster]

Yeah that's it, Ice.

Pac would KO him in 1 though.

But that's still assuming Pac could take a HW punch and could lug around that extra weight. If you make adjustments for that, then perhaps comparable adjustments could be made for Klitschko to be a force at 130. At 110 pounds lighter he could be a great deal faster. Judge him for who he is where he is not for what other fighters are in their classes.

OK.. so take the best and worst attributes of both fighters. Morph them into a weight-class where their size and weight is leveled (halfway) - then pick the winner?

I make Pac an EASY winner.

But then your still working from a theoretical standpoint.

Would pacs speed advance with him to say a dead 160, understandably there would be some kind of decline in his work rate. But would that extra weight prove to slow him down more than the norm.

Would Wlad lose his ability to throw that jab 20-30 times a round if he was fighting at a lower weight and had to rely more on countering with the right.

Its only ever fair to compare fighters in the same weight class, P4P rankings are all good as your judging each on their individual abilitys and accomplishments.

But P4P is still no more than various judgements!!

Yes. P4P is a load of bollocks. Fact.

But it's fun

[:::PSL:::]

Wlad vs Haye.

Whoever wins by KO, goes in my top 10 p4p list.

nuff said.

[Wayne]

Wlad vs Haye.

Whoever wins by KO, goes in my top 10 p4p list.

nuff said.

Then if and when it happens Wlad will go into your top ten. Haye is a tailor-made fighter for Klitschko. He sticks his whole head forward and crouches down- he looks like an old man. When he leaps in he'll get tied up and he'll be frustrated on the outside until he gets blanked with a straight right that sneaks in behind the jab. Haye's defense is POUROUS and while that worked with Enzo Macarinelli, Wlad will make you pay if you keep your hands down.

[El Kabong]

Wlad doesn't belong on any Pound4Pound lists because he's a heavyweight and the list was made to showcase the lighter weight classes....he could beat Jesus and still wouldn't make the P4P list.


I'm a Wlad fan...I just don't think natural heavyweights deserve to be on the list

[killersheep]

If he paid me a million dollars I'd make him p4p number 1 on my list hands down.

[WelshDevilRob]

Wlad vs Haye.

Whoever wins by KO, goes in my top 10 p4p list.

nuff said.

Then if and when it happens Wlad will go into your top ten. Haye is a tailor-made fighter for Klitschko. He sticks his whole head forward and crouches down- he looks like an old man. When he leaps in he'll get tied up and he'll be frustrated on the outside until he gets blanked with a straight right that sneaks in behind the jab. Haye's defense is POUROUS and while that worked with Enzo Macarinelli, Wlad will make you pay if you keep your hands down.

Liquid don't post based on seeing the guy fight once - which is plainly obvious from your completely wrong analysis of Haye's style.

Wlad ain't quick enough to deal with Haye - simple as that.

[ICB]

But that's still assuming Pac could take a HW punch and could lug around that extra weight. If you make adjustments for that, then perhaps comparable adjustments could be made for Klitschko to be a force at 130. At 110 pounds lighter he could be a great deal faster. Judge him for who he is where he is not for what other fighters are in their classes.

OK.. so take the best and worst attributes of both fighters. Morph them into a weight-class where their size and weight is leveled (halfway) - then pick the winner?

I make Pac an EASY winner.

I think it would be similar to Corrie Sanders vs Wladimir Klitscko, Sanders was a fast punching powerful Southpaw, can anyone see a deja vu there ??