Sometimes I'm ashamed to be Canadian...

[El Kabong]

I didn't cry for invasion....but hey we're there....might as well get some stuff when we're done....like a friendly new government (yes yes wishful thinking...the least we can do is stabilize things.....and maybe take some oil home with us)



....so as we were saying....Canada sucks THE END

[Youngblood]

I didn't cry for invasion....but hey we're there....might as well get some stuff when we're done....like a friendly new government (yes yes wishful thinking...the least we can do is stabilize things.....and maybe take some oil home with us)



....so as we were saying....Canada sucks THE END

Do a worldwide poll on who sucks more, and you can thank your prez. for the results, and yourself and your views as well.

[El Kabong]

But here's the thing....American's don't give a fuck what the "world" thinks...if you all thought the same thing then would the war have ever happened to begin with?



Excuse me for just blowing your minds

[CFH]

But here's the thing....American's don't give a fuck what the "world" thinks...if you all thought the same thing then would the war have ever happened to begin with?



Excuse me for just blowing your minds

What? That doesn't even make any sense...

Plenty of American's care what the rest of the world think, unfortunately there are a bunch of nationalistic morons who don't care (as there are in any country) who are in positions of power at the moment.

[El Kabong]

Plenty of "Americans" (using the mocking finger quotes) like Susan Surandon and Rosie O'Donnell care about what everyone else thinks...but I am of the opinion if Americans don't respect/love/admire America then no one else is going to do it for them....so we have to work on us and everyone else is just going to have to take a fucking backseat whilst we get our shit together.


The war is beside the point here...it's not JUST the war America has problems with....this partisan crap hasn't gotten any better since W took office and it wouldn't have been any better if Gore or Kerry had won either....Congress' rating is worse than W's and no body (bar myself) is bitching about how fucked up the Democrats are....Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Clinton and all the other winged monkeys out there have done fuck all for America and they have had ample opportunities but THEY chose to grandstand.....people can accuse the GOP of grandstanding as well but hey look in the mirror they had a chance to stop funding on the war thereby securing it's end and they balked.......because like any politician these days, they don't have the stones to do anything about anything

[El Kabong]

As for the "if all nations thought alike would there even be a war" it means ....if "The World" thought one way about everything then there wouldn't have been a war or any war...but see the nations of the world are different and that being the case why should America try to be the most favorite nation I thought all yall hated that side of America....you know, the "World Police"/"Nation Building"/"Defender of Nerd Nations getting bullied by the jock countries"


All the nations of the world know is that they want America to either help them achieve their goals OR leave them alone so they can help themselves.

[CFH]

As for the "if all nations thought alike would there even be a war" it means ....if "The World" thought one way about everything then there wouldn't have been a war or any war...but see the nations of the world are different and that being the case why should America try to be the most favorite nation I thought all yall hated that side of America....you know, the "World Police"/"Nation Building"/"Defender of Nerd Nations getting bullied by the jock countries"


All the nations of the world know is that they want America to either help them achieve their goals OR leave them alone so they can help themselves.

You're right. If Saddam Hussein has thought, "Gee, I guess I'll just step down from power, admit to possessing weapons I do not have, and hand over all my country's oil reserves to my enemy ...", war probably could've been averted.

It's not America people hate, it's imperialism in any of its forms, be economic, military, etc. People hated the French, British, German, and the rest of the imperial European countries when they did the same thing. How did you guys like it when the British were in charge of your country? You did exactly what the Iraqi's are doing.

America, by its very existence and power, all ready affects all of the other countries in the world, most often in a negative manner, so it's not as if the U.S. can just leave other countries alone as you say. That type of influence, hypothetically, comes along with a responsibility to ensure that it is wielded in the correct manner as opposed to a childish "I'm the strongest, so only I matter" mentality. It's immoral, but more important for you guys, it's unsustainable.

[CFH]

Plenty of "Americans" (using the mocking finger quotes) like Susan Surandon and Rosie O'Donnell care about what everyone else thinks...but I am of the opinion if Americans don't respect/love/admire America then no one else is going to do it for them....so we have to work on us and everyone else is just going to have to take a fucking backseat whilst we get our shit together.


The war is beside the point here...it's not JUST the war America has problems with....this partisan crap hasn't gotten any better since W took office and it wouldn't have been any better if Gore or Kerry had won either....Congress' rating is worse than W's and no body (bar myself) is bitching about how fucked up the Democrats are....Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Clinton and all the other winged monkeys out there have done fuck all for America and they have had ample opportunities but THEY chose to grandstand.....people can accuse the GOP of grandstanding as well but hey look in the mirror they had a chance to stop funding on the war thereby securing it's end and they balked.......because like any politician these days, they don't have the stones to do anything about anything

So because people have a different perspective from yours they are somehow less American than you? You can be patriotic while objecting to the actions of your government, you do understand that? As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what that has to do with anything else that we have been discussing. However, I do want to address something you said, if the Dems (or Reps) had blocked funding at any point during the war it would have been political suicide. They would've immediately been labeled as being against the troops because of the god awful, supporting the war=supporting the troops link that has been established because of the shame American's feel towards the way they treated returning Vietnam veterans.

[El Kabong]

So because people have a different perspective from yours they are somehow less American than you? You can be patriotic while objecting to the actions of your government, you do understand that? As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what that has to do with anything else that we have been discussing. However, I do want to address something you said, if the Dems (or Reps) had blocked funding at any point during the war it would have been political suicide. They would've immediately been labeled as being against the troops because of the god awful, supporting the war=supporting the troops link that has been established because of the shame American's feel towards the way they treated returning Vietnam veterans.

Nope, it's a free world but riddle me this....when was the last time people such as Susan Surandon said "I am proud of America" or "America is a great nation"....and then why was it they were "proud"

I'm not saying they are un-American...I don't want to say that...if I wanted to say that I would say it....I'm saying they have more of a "Global" mindset and therefore don't have America's best intrests in mind.....ever

CFH get off it....we're there nothing I or you can say or do is going to remedy that anytime soon.