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    Disappointing but we have to look at a few things here, 1 Calzaghe has been tight at Super Middleweight for years he has to drain himself quite severely to make the weight which is a fact. I think he is very comfortable weight wise at Light Heavyweight and at his age now it would be a bad idea to drain yourself against such a dangerous young champion like Pavlik. But saying that i think they could easily do this fight at catch weight no problem.

    Calzaghe is doing the smart option and going for the big pay day over a former legend to close out his career. But lets get one thing straight here people are making out like Jones vs Calzaghe is just a fore gone conclusion when it isn't. Jones may be old but he is still x2 faster than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and Calzaghe has never faced anyone remotely close to Jones. So don't underestimate Jones he could very easily pull of the upset, and people are forgetting Calzaghe is also past his peak he isn't no spring chicken either, in fact i noticed in Hopkins fight his jab and combo's wern't has fast or snappy, and he did look like a fighter on his way out to me IMO, so don't think Jones vs Calzaghe will be a fore gone conclusion folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Disappointing but we have to look at a few things here, 1 Calzaghe has been tight at Super Middleweight for years he has to drain himself quite severely to make the weight which is a fact. I think he is very comfortable weight wise at Light Heavyweight and at his age now it would be a bad idea to drain yourself against such a dangerous young champion like Pavlik. But saying that i think they could easily do this fight at catch weight no problem.

    Calzaghe is doing the smart option and going for the big pay day over a former legend to close out his career. But lets get one thing straight here people are making out like Jones vs Calzaghe is just a fore gone conclusion when it isn't. Jones may be old but he is still x2 faster than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and Calzaghe has never faced anyone remotely close to Jones. So don't underestimate Jones he could very easily pull of the upset, and people are forgetting Calzaghe is also past his peak he isn't no spring chicken either, in fact i noticed in Hopkins fight his jab and combo's wern't has fast or snappy, and he did look like a fighter on his way out to me IMO, so don't think Jones vs Calzaghe will be a fore gone conclusion folks.


    Best post so far.. Cant add nothing more if I tried 100% accurate..

    Everyone knows I am a Calzaghe fan after Kessler and have accepted his accompolishments as extrodinary, but with that I believe in my heart of hearts Jones wins this in front of a record crowd in England(If they already havent announced the fight and the venue)

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says Jones his last fight

    Blah.....boxers always say they're about to retire. I rarely ever believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Disappointing but we have to look at a few things here, 1 Calzaghe has been tight at Super Middleweight for years he has to drain himself quite severely to make the weight which is a fact. I think he is very comfortable weight wise at Light Heavyweight and at his age now it would be a bad idea to drain yourself against such a dangerous young champion like Pavlik. But saying that i think they could easily do this fight at catch weight no problem.

    Calzaghe is doing the smart option and going for the big pay day over a former legend to close out his career. But lets get one thing straight here people are making out like Jones vs Calzaghe is just a fore gone conclusion when it isn't. Jones may be old but he is still x2 faster than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and Calzaghe has never faced anyone remotely close to Jones. So don't underestimate Jones he could very easily pull of the upset, and people are forgetting Calzaghe is also past his peak he isn't no spring chicken either, in fact i noticed in Hopkins fight his jab and combo's wern't has fast or snappy, and he did look like a fighter on his way out to me IMO, so don't think Jones vs Calzaghe will be a fore gone conclusion folks.


    Best post so far.. Cant add nothing more if I tried 100% accurate..

    Everyone knows I am a Calzaghe fan after Kessler and have accepted his accompolishments as extrodinary, but with that I believe in my heart of hearts Jones wins this in front of a record crowd in England(If they already havent announced the fight and the venue)
    I really wouldn't be surprised if Jones beat Calzaghe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Disappointing but we have to look at a few things here, 1 Calzaghe has been tight at Super Middleweight for years he has to drain himself quite severely to make the weight which is a fact. I think he is very comfortable weight wise at Light Heavyweight and at his age now it would be a bad idea to drain yourself against such a dangerous young champion like Pavlik. But saying that i think they could easily do this fight at catch weight no problem.

    Calzaghe is doing the smart option and going for the big pay day over a former legend to close out his career. But lets get one thing straight here people are making out like Jones vs Calzaghe is just a fore gone conclusion when it isn't. Jones may be old but he is still x2 faster than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and Calzaghe has never faced anyone remotely close to Jones. So don't underestimate Jones he could very easily pull of the upset, and people are forgetting Calzaghe is also past his peak he isn't no spring chicken either, in fact i noticed in Hopkins fight his jab and combo's wern't has fast or snappy, and he did look like a fighter on his way out to me IMO, so don't think Jones vs Calzaghe will be a fore gone conclusion folks.
    Calzaghe has been claiming problems with making weight since 2005 when he signed to face Glen Johnson and than punked out. He still continue to fight at 168. He can make the weight. Pavlik-Calzaghe is a better fight than Jones-Calzaghe. Calzaghe needs to fight Pavlik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Disappointing but we have to look at a few things here, 1 Calzaghe has been tight at Super Middleweight for years he has to drain himself quite severely to make the weight which is a fact. I think he is very comfortable weight wise at Light Heavyweight and at his age now it would be a bad idea to drain yourself against such a dangerous young champion like Pavlik. But saying that i think they could easily do this fight at catch weight no problem.

    Calzaghe is doing the smart option and going for the big pay day over a former legend to close out his career. But lets get one thing straight here people are making out like Jones vs Calzaghe is just a fore gone conclusion when it isn't. Jones may be old but he is still x2 faster than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and Calzaghe has never faced anyone remotely close to Jones. So don't underestimate Jones he could very easily pull of the upset, and people are forgetting Calzaghe is also past his peak he isn't no spring chicken either, in fact i noticed in Hopkins fight his jab and combo's wern't has fast or snappy, and he did look like a fighter on his way out to me IMO, so don't think Jones vs Calzaghe will be a fore gone conclusion folks.
    That's a good point. I know Hopkins traditionally makes people look bad, but after seeing Calzaghe look a bit old and worn struggling against B-Hop I'm not convinced he could beat Jones. I'd say in my mind its about 60/40 in favor of Calzaghe, but it's by no means a sure thing

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says Jones his last fight

    I don't see Roy as having much of a chance honestly. He's still fast but his legs are shot, that is why he spends so much time on the ropes especially against guys who really pressure him which Joe will do. I see Jones laying on the ropes, covering up and Calzaghe flurrying, maybe not landing a whole lot of meaningful shots but winning at least 8 rounds or so. Hopkins makes everyone look bad, I don't see the same thing with this version of Roy. I have obviously been wrong before. I guess we will see.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says Jones his last fight

    I know Bhop is Bhop, but Calzaghe looked downright sloppy at times in that fight and it wasn't always Hopkins making him look that way.

    Jones won't be intimidated the least by Calzaghe's power..he know nothing in Calzaghe's arsenal can hurt him.

    Even though a 43 year old hopkins is probably "fresher" than a 39 RJJ; RJJ is more active. If Jones plays the counter puncher and maintains enough activity (no doubt this is going 12) he has got a good shot at the UD.

    Similar to the bhop fight except Jones will be more active. I put this fight at a straight split on who wins. Same story of output vs. effectiveness.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says Jones his last fight

    Jones right cross is gonna play a big part, I see Jones landing that punch with regularity with 1,2's.. Then you will see him incorporate bodywork to slow Calzaghe down then he will get more confidence mid rounds by mixing up an array of punches, come the 10th when he has the fight in the bag he will let his foot off the gas potshotting and cruise to a desicion.

    I think Roy will counter fine off the ropes, and dont see Joe's power really troubling Roy, on the contrary I see Roy's power and speed troubling Calzaghe. Calzaghe has fast hands but not 100% conviction behing them.. Roy throws fast and still has some business on them.. I think Roys power+crispness on his punches will be enough to make the difference

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