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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    There both actually similar there both round about the same height, they both throw straight punches right down the pipe. Both mens best punches are the jab, right hand combination. It will be a very close call but i'll give the edge to Pavlik based on the the power advantage, and the work rate advantage. But it could go either way but i'll go with Pavlik by a close 12 round UD.
    I agree it's a toss up.

    I admire Kessler stepping up and calling out Pavlik, not many are lining up to fight him atm.

    I agree that Pavlik has got a few more outs....the power, work rate, and will be pressuring Kessler all night. Kess likes to set the distance and Pavlik will be invading it all night long.

    I'd love to see this fight materialize. I'm a fan of Kessler and don't like Pavlik. The two would make a great match up.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    There both actually similar there both round about the same height, they both throw straight punches right down the pipe. Both mens best punches are the jab, right hand combination. It will be a very close call but i'll give the edge to Pavlik based on the the power advantage, and the work rate advantage. But it could go either way but i'll go with Pavlik by a close 12 round UD.
    I agree it's a toss up.

    I admire Kessler stepping up and calling out Pavlik, not many are lining up to fight him atm.

    I agree that Pavlik has got a few more outs....the power, work rate, and will be pressuring Kessler all night. Kess likes to set the distance and Pavlik will be invading it all night long.

    I'd love to see this fight materialize. I'm a fan of Kessler and don't like Pavlik. The two would make a great match up.
    I'm the same, I'm a big Kessler fan and I'm not that big a fan of Pavlik because of all the hype (I know it's a stupid reason, especially considering the hype Kessler received in the past). This would be a real toss up for me, I'd love to see it. Both men seem to like to fight at a bit of a distance, Pavlik has a higher work-rate, perhaps more power, but Kessler has better defense and is faster from what I've seen. Both men have great chins, but Kessler showed vulnerablility in his body during the Calzaghe fight, however I don't know if I've seen Kessler hurt like Pavlik was in the first Taylor fight. One thing I think that Kessler would try to do would be to walk Pavlik into right hands and counters, but I don't know if Pavlik would let him be successful.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    I cannot see Pavlik caring to face Kessler at this point in time. Kessler is just regrouping himself and does not offer anything Pavlik would want.

    Calzaghe on the other hand was a huge target in the boxing world. A big enough target where Pavlik was willing to move up in weight for.

    Once Kessler gets his feet wet again with a couple good wins, then he becomes a viable top opponent again. One who is worth the jump in weight. Pavlik just won titles in his own weight class. He should not have to chase people around, unless of course they are a bigger fish than he is like Joe.

    You can expect a Pavlik vs Kessler fight maybe in 2009 sometime, unless Pavlik decides to move up in weight early.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Sounds good to me. There is really not a whole lot at middle for Pavlik outside of Abraham and maybe Winky. And he's a huge middle so he's going to move up at some point anyway.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Nice stepping up to the plate.
    Only problem is I like both of them,I dont know who to root for

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    I agree ICB it could come down to who could move the other guy backwards and I would probably give the advantage to Pavlik. Call me crazy but I think Pavlik might have the better footwork too which always plays a key role in these type of match ups. That's been my main criticism of Kessler form the longest time and I'm not letting up on it now. Although it is a lot easier to root for Kessler without his groupies around.

    This is just a great fight though, if it was made it would probably be second to Cotto-Margarito in most anticipated fights. Like I said though I'm perfectly fine with Pavlik fighting bums at middleweight for as long as he can because he is such an entertaining fighter I would love to see a guy like him dominate the middleweight division the way Hagler and Hopkins did. He just seems like a middleweight champion to me.

    But I wouldn't mind if it meant this fight getting made. Did Kessler fight this weekend? Sartison or whatever? I thought I saw something on that. I would like to see his rebound fight and Pavlik against a true 168 before it was made but either way it's fine.

    I say bring on Rubio though, I was actually mildly impressed with Rubio on Telefutura. Not impressed enough to see him last with Pavlik but he has improved a lot from the fighter who I saw a couple years ago. Lots of punches, good jab and towards the end he couldn't miss. He's only like 27 too so it makes sense that he did improve. I would guessed him to be in his late 50's based on the number of wins he had.

    After him Grady Brewer.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Two aggresive fighters that search for the straight or overhand right, whilst throwing large volumes of punches.

    Kessler although enjoying a size advantage in the trunk and abdomen, coupled with his more advanced movement may be slightly behind in terms of acute punching power. However, as both men are possessed of a considerable quantity of the good stuff a KO is possible from either side.

    This is a ight that will have fans salivating either side of the Atlantic and one which will be difficult to schedule a venue for giving that Kessler has not previously fought outside of Europe.


    Bring it on.
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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    I've been saying for a while I would love to see this fight happen...


    Either way though, it's good that Kessler is getting his head back in the game... I'm a big fan of his, and believe he's still got some good fighting to do inside the ring. I wished that he had of worked a bit harder to get back into it after the Calzaghe loss, even if it was against a lesser opponent. But hopefully the time off has given him a chance to regroup, look at what makes him such a hot prospect, and start kicking ass and taking names again..

    I would only give Pavlik the slight edge due to power, and he's shown that he can take a punch well and recover quickly.. Of course, one can say that, and the next fight he could get really shaken...
    But based on what's been shown by both fighters, I think Pavlik has shown that bit tiny bit more that would pull him through a win with a fighter like Kessler, who is very similar to him in stye..

    It will be a really really great technical fight.. A battle of head on boxing... Good luck to both fighters!

    Hope this fight gets signed..

    And I actually think Pavlik has quite a lot to gain by beating Kessler.. It does not seem like a big credibility type fight just to get the win in this one..
    But to beat Kessler, he's going to need to show a lot of class, which could go a long way towards proving he's the real deal to his critics.. I think the Jermain 1 fight was his real test to prove what he's got.. A win of Kessler will be his next test to show that he is here to stay, and he can stand up to anyone in his weight right now.

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    Kessler is the man he is better than Calzaghe because he wants to take risks fight the best it was him who wanted to fight Calzaghe Calzaghe kept saying he wasn't that bothered about fighting him.Now Kessler wants Pavlik another top guy see kessler could just win the WBA title then make 21 defences against bums and has beens but no he likes to put himself on the line he isn't bothered about remaining unbeaten.Calzaghe beat Kessler but he isn't proving he is the better fighter by fighting old men way past there best because lets have it right at his best Jones would have destroyed Calzaghe Calzaghe never wanted him then.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    This one is a true toss-up for me. They're both studly guys who can do more than throw power shots. I think we got to see the other side of Kessler's game against Andrade. He was able to rely on something other than power shots to get a W and he may be able to do that against Pavlik. Pavlik's chin is phenomenal, even though his defense isn't necessarily, but he seems the type to take risks when he sees openings. Taylor hurt him because he was trying to be cute, not because of a flaw in his defense. And Miranda flat-out had nothing that could stop him. Flip a coin for me; that's as good as I can guess.
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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    This would be a fucking great fight!

    I think kessler is the better boxer

    But pavlik seems to have more power and seems to be more natural tough

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    If this fight happens I am going with Pavlik in 8.Very dumb fight for Kessler I believe.He hasn't had any fight's since his loss.So ring rust is on his size,he doesn't throw as many punches as Pavlik nor as hard,and I believe he is exactly what B-Hop says he is a straight up 1-2 European guy.His head is always there to be found he has gotten by from his power and he would need to add more head movement rather than stand up to Pavlik.All and all he has no chance in this fight and he will be beaten badly.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Here’s how I suspect it will go:

    Kessler will challenge Pavlik

    Pavlik will accept

    Kessler will then create a list of 25 demands that Pavlik must agree to for the fight to come off

    Pavlik will agree

    Kessler will then withdraw form the fight without telling the TV networks and take another fight against a nobody for IBC international regular title, and claim that he is more interested in collecting titles then fighting Pavlik.

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    Default Re: Kessler Challenges Pavlik

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    There both actually similar there both round about the same height, they both throw straight punches right down the pipe. Both mens best punches are the jab, right hand combination. It will be a very close call but i'll give the edge to Pavlik based on the the power advantage, and the work rate advantage. But it could go either way but i'll go with Pavlik by a close 12 round UD.
    I agree it's a toss up.

    I admire Kessler stepping up and calling out Pavlik, not many are lining up to fight him atm.

    I agree that Pavlik has got a few more outs....the power, work rate, and will be pressuring Kessler all night. Kess likes to set the distance and Pavlik will be invading it all night long.

    I'd love to see this fight materialize. I'm a fan of Kessler and don't like Pavlik. The two would make a great match up.
    Tell me....Why do you not like Pavlik? He is what all boxers should be. Both as a person and a sportsman.

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