Coaching Certification as a Fighter

[Youngblood]

I don't know where you are located but in the states you have to take a clinic from a certified level 2 official. If you contact your LBC president they would know who the person is that can give the clinics. Then you have to pass the test, which is pretty easy, especially if you already know the rules.
Most times the clinics are given the day of an event since everyone is gathered in the same town on that day. There is a fee for a background check as well and then you are issued a passbook similar to the one you have for competing.

I dont know where in the states your located,but most states will do a lick and stick

I live in Montana, they are pretty strict here with officiating.

I keep thinking you are in Colorado. They are close though, right? Lots of mountains and wide open spaces and such?

I have a question for you or anyone else who may know. After level one, what is required to gain level 2 and so on, and what is learned with it, or its benefits. I think I read too that for the level 1 you need to be active and do some things to keep it, plus to move on. Any ideas what that might be?

[wesrman]

Becoming a trainer could be cool down the line if you ever want to own your own gym. So its a good idea to start learning now.

[sourpuss]

I dont know where in the states your located,but most states will do a lick and stick

I live in Montana, they are pretty strict here with officiating.

I keep thinking you are in Colorado. They are close though, right? Lots of mountains and wide open spaces and such?

I have a question for you or anyone else who may know. After level one, what is required to gain level 2 and so on, and what is learned with it, or its benefits. I think I read too that for the level 1 you need to be active and do some things to keep it, plus to move on. Any ideas what that might be?

I don't know what the rules are in Canada but here, for a level two you have to have officiated at a regional tournament and have been a level one for two years.

[sourpuss]

...and yes MT and Colorado are similar. But still a good 12-15 hour drive.

[tyciol]

If you're going to be a coach and a fighter it'd probably be better to train people in a different weight class (or a different kind of boxing) to avoid conflicts of interest and stuff.

For example, if the person you train gets aggressive and takes a lot of risks, even if you're not, people might suspect you're encouraging them to be that way to help damage your potential competitors (including the student).

A coach should be interested in creating a healthy boxing career for their pupils. However, since boxers have an interest in others dropping out and having shorter careers (as it means less experienced opponents to fight) one should not be coaching people who are fighting in the same class they are... IMO.

Are there people that do that? I don't really know.

I mean, it'd probably be okay if you were the welterweight champion and training people who haven't gone pro, or who are in the low leagues and nowhere near fighting you or anyone who'd be fighitng you, but as the expanse closes up, you would want to change it up probably.

Now that I think about it, this kind of situation happened in this anime I watched Hajime no Ippo and there didn't seem to be any objections to it... so maybe I was overreacting? Basically, the lightweight champion's student, who was also lightweight, was fighting Ippo (main char) who was lightweight. After Ippo fought him, he'd be going on to fight the champion...

But to me, it seems like a conflict, because the student might decide to incur some injuries in order to hurt Ippo. Even if no one is that immoral, it's just a situation people tend to avoid so as to simplify people's concerns.

It's sort of like what you see in 'Karate Kid'. The guy is instructed to take penalties by inflicting illegal moves, not just to win the match and destroy moral, but also because Danny Karuso was also competing in other events and it would negatively affect his ability to score more points than team Dragon in those categories.

Or... I actually might be mixing that up with 'Sidekicks'... but you get the idea. Chuck Norris...

[Youngblood]

If you're going to be a coach and a fighter it'd probably be better to train people in a different weight class (or a different kind of boxing) to avoid conflicts of interest and stuff.

For example, if the person you train gets aggressive and takes a lot of risks, even if you're not, people might suspect you're encouraging them to be that way to help damage your potential competitors (including the student).

A coach should be interested in creating a healthy boxing career for their pupils. However, since boxers have an interest in others dropping out and having shorter careers (as it means less experienced opponents to fight) one should not be coaching people who are fighting in the same class they are... IMO.

Are there people that do that? I don't really know.

I mean, it'd probably be okay if you were the welterweight champion and training people who haven't gone pro, or who are in the low leagues and nowhere near fighting you or anyone who'd be fighitng you, but as the expanse closes up, you would want to change it up probably.

Now that I think about it, this kind of situation happened in this anime I watched Hajime no Ippo and there didn't seem to be any objections to it... so maybe I was overreacting? Basically, the lightweight champion's student, who was also lightweight, was fighting Ippo (main char) who was lightweight. After Ippo fought him, he'd be going on to fight the champion...

But to me, it seems like a conflict, because the student might decide to incur some injuries in order to hurt Ippo. Even if no one is that immoral, it's just a situation people tend to avoid so as to simplify people's concerns.

It's sort of like what you see in 'Karate Kid'. The guy is instructed to take penalties by inflicting illegal moves, not just to win the match and destroy moral, but also because Danny Karuso was also competing in other events and it would negatively affect his ability to score more points than team Dragon in those categories.

Or... I actually might be mixing that up with 'Sidekicks'... but you get the idea. Chuck Norris...

No offence, but wth are we talking about here? cartoons? hollywood movies?

I just want to get my cert. so we can help each other when on the road and work the corners if need be. Plus learn more then I know now.

[Youngblood]

To follow up on this thread, still haven't gotten certified as planned.

Have run into a roadblock of sorts, as there are age restrictions here in Ontario and only fairly limited courses available. Level 1 coaching certifications are broken down into 3 groups, Theory, Technical, and Practical. As far I can tell, only the theory will be available to me until I turn 16. The others are restricted by age...which kind of sucks, but I suppose the reasoning in general may be good. I suspect most under 16 don't have the experience to fully comprehend all that is involved...not really sure.

Anyway, must wait until there is a clinic open for theory, as that will give me the ability to work a corner and make it easier for us to travel to shows and trade off responsibilties.

Here is a link to the categories here in Ontario:

How to become a coach