Landing Hooks and Uppercuts from the outside.

[Trainer Monkey]

Offensive and defensive
Hook,you have to widen it out a little from the outside to make your reach
Defending,step in past it,and uppercut

Uppercut,I really dont recomend an out uppercut,but you have to open up your arm angle,and you will have to make a step with it,that may feel like a lunge to get anything on it
Defending,block it out,instinct says to block it in,dont,block it out by twisting your hips back,and as your blocking it out counter with an overhand cross

[Andre]

Practice ; Double up on them while moving in.
High and low or low and high, first one gets the reaction second one gets your distance and lands in the reverse spot to his arms reaction to the first one. You'll kill two birds with one stone.

[El Kabong]

If you're going to throw a lunging hook here's what works for me...


Set up the right cross....feint the right cross...when you feint roll your body weight to your left side and then push off and leap in with the hook.

This way you have time to see if they buy the feint....if they don't then hold back the hook and keep pounding the 1-2 and it will eventually set it up

[donnydarkoIRL]

If you're going to throw a lunging hook here's what works for me...


Set up the right cross....feint the right cross...when you feint roll your body weight to your left side and then push off and leap in with the hook.

This way you have time to see if they buy the feint....if they don't then hold back the hook and keep pounding the 1-2 and it will eventually set it up

I would never train to throw a lunging hook.
I feel that lunging is by no means positive and should actually be discouraged.

[Youngblood]

Yea I am almost convinced my poorly executed hook was responsible for a lot of my lower back pain. Not saying I got it perfect now, but since I started working on shortening it the steady lower back pain has all but disappeared...

[Scrap]

Youngun,at a guees I dont think you are turning the Hook thats why its affecting the lower back if you were it wouldnt

[ICB]

I wouldn't throw uppercuts from the outside watch what happened to Douglas against Holyfield, And watch what happened to Leonard throwing hooks from the outside against Hearns in the rematch. I find it so easy to counter my opponent when they try and throw hooks or uppercuts from the outside, good luck to you Donny if you can do it effectively but its not something i would ever do too risky.

[Youngblood]

Youngun,at a guees I dont think you are turning the Hook thats why its affecting the lower back if you were it wouldnt

Yea thanks Scrap, I believe you are right. I think I got most of that figured out in the last few months. Backs feeling much better now. I got a brand new problem working on using the uppercut properly now. Is always something to work on, eh?

[El Kabong]

I would never train to throw a lunging hook.
I feel that lunging is by no means positive and should actually be discouraged.

Don't knock it till you try it....it's not like I just lept in with no defense and no regard for my chin.


When you feint the right cross you either get your opponent to try and cover up or they don't do anything and wait to time you coming in. After you feint you have your right hand up close to your chin protecting any counter shots and you also shift your weight to put big power on your hook.


This is not something to use all the time but like the right hook it can be used to great effect in certain situations.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I've tried it.

I've found that it not only robs you of your balance and leverage it also steals an opportunity for work from you.

When you lunge you lose the ability to apply full power and precision. You're not grounded, losing you're capacity for power.
However, lunging means you're also going to be moving towards an opponent at a fast rate. Even if you do connect you're bound to be two close to capitalise, smothering your own work and wasting opportunity.

[El Kabong]

Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, and Mike Tyson used it...you follow up with a right uppercut and you've just ran THEM into another power punch.


But fine, you do you....I'm just throwing out some stuff that has worked for me.


I doubt the guys I've hit with my hook have felt that anything was left out of it....I know I couldn't tell I hit any lighter because I don't leave the ground when I throw that combination...I wait until the fighter is in range pump the jab...pause step forward roll the right shoulder and see if they move their arms forward then I drop the bomb....if not I just keep my head moving and work the 1-2 until they buy the feint



But I know the best hook is the quick counter one and not the one loaded up on...I throw those different ways as well. On the quick one I turn my wrist aiming for the point of the chin, on the big one I keep my wrist perpendicular to the ground and I just want to make contact with anything a head, a glove, an arm, the body, anything just to let my opponent know what's coming.