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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    I think he'll be better in the future but he'll never beat floyd and he does not hit like a mule.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    If he went to the body more he would have a better chance than anyone else out there. Also he hits really hard, I have no idea what your talking about. Having a record of 22-0(19KO's) is a guy who can hit very hard, and you can hear it when he lands.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    If he went to the body more he would have a better chance than anyone else out there. Also he hits really hard, I have no idea what your talking about. Having a record of 22-0(19KO's) is a guy who can hit very hard, and you can hear it when he lands.
    I don't know taeth, most fighters start out with high ko percentage. I just don't think he hit like a mule, that can be intact still as he move on up in weight. His young so ofcourse he will be moving up, do you think his ko percentage will remain high as he grows? plus his level of oppenent are suppose to be getting ko'ed don't you think. that is if he really is any good.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    If he went to the body more he would have a better chance than anyone else out there. Also he hits really hard, I have no idea what your talking about. Having a record of 22-0(19KO's) is a guy who can hit very hard, and you can hear it when he lands.
    I don't know taeth, most fighters start out with high ko percentage. I just don't think he hit like a mule, that can be intact still as he move on up in weight. His young so ofcourse he will be moving up, do you think his ko percentage will remain high as he grows? plus his level of oppenent are suppose to be getting ko'ed don't you think. that is if he really is any good.
    Most fighters don't usually maintain their high KO percentage for as long as he has against the opponents he has of late. 99% of fighters will decline in KO% as their competition gets higher, and they fight at higher weights so I don't know what your trying to prove? Cotto hits really hard, and he isn't KO'ing everybody like he used to, that doens't mean he doesn't hit really hard. Berto does hit really hard, and he will be at WW for quite a while. Also I don't necessarily think his opponents are meant to get KO'ed, Rivera has a great chin, went the distance with Mosley among others, Estrada went 10 rounds with Cintron and has a pretty good chin, and Miguel has never been KO'ed. I am not saying Berto hits like Ketchel, W. Gomez, Zarate, etc. what I am saying is that he hits really hard, and along with his speed he will become IMO better than anyone else out there.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    The kid's not that good, but I'll reserve judgement till he steps up and beats someone of stature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    The kid's not that good, but I'll reserve judgement till he steps up and beats someone of stature.
    Thats the key with him Imo.Very odd,He has won a title but his level of comp is not that Impressive.In His last two fights he has shown much Improved hand speed & is changing up the pace nice,glad to see he is varying his punches & power.Not a devestating one punch hitter but speed is power in & of it self....but he has aloooong way to go before I go and say he is ready for The top welters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene69 View Post
    The kid's not that good, but I'll reserve judgement till he steps up and beats someone of stature.
    Look at Cotto back when he was 24 getting hurt by Demarcus Corley and whatnot. Now I think he is one win away from being the best or second best fighter in the world.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    There is plenty of young and old competition in the Welter Weight division and I look forward to seeing Berto in the future and see if he can live up to the hype.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    If he went to the body more he would have a better chance than anyone else out there. Also he hits really hard, I have no idea what your talking about. Having a record of 22-0(19KO's) is a guy who can hit very hard, and you can hear it when he lands.
    I don't know taeth, most fighters start out with high ko percentage. I just don't think he hit like a mule, that can be intact still as he move on up in weight. His young so ofcourse he will be moving up, do you think his ko percentage will remain high as he grows? plus his level of oppenent are suppose to be getting ko'ed don't you think. that is if he really is any good.
    I agree Berto isnt a huge puncher. But hes a nice fighter to watch.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    A lot of question marks in my opinion, he's got great athletic ability but he's got some defensive issues and he definitely doesn't hit like a mule.

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    The biggest thing that impresses me about berto is that he gets better and better each fight, and rarely repeat mistakes when he's focused and serious. He gets caught now and again cold and when he try's to showboat but outside of that he's pretty solid. It was hillarious to see dude get floored by that uppercut and say " woooooow" !! when he fell to the cavas that was one of the quickest punches i've seen an opponet have no chance of seeing let alone blocking. The kid is good.....simply put.
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    I worry about the fact that if I was managing Berto I would have kept him as a prospect for a few more fights. Sure he was handed a belt, but I don't think that he could beat any of the other WW title holders YET. I don't think he has one punch power, but he does have crisp punches that last until the later rounds which will by far and large will keep his KO% up.

    I think he should fight Luis Collazo as his mandatory as he is the highest ranked in the WBC. And it should be an interesting fight to see if Berto can handle someone that has definate slickness.
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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    They're showing the fight on sky here in the UK thursday, will have a look then.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I worry about the fact that if I was managing Berto I would have kept him as a prospect for a few more fights. Sure he was handed a belt, but I don't think that he could beat any of the other WW title holders YET. I don't think he has one punch power, but he does have crisp punches that last until the later rounds which will by far and large will keep his KO% up.

    I think he should fight Luis Collazo as his mandatory as he is the highest ranked in the WBC. And it should be an interesting fight to see if Berto can handle someone that has definate slickness.
    Collazo would be an excellent test - and a good gauge of where Berto is right now. I'm of the same mind as a lot of you guys, in that I think he has a lot of potential but still needs a bit of seasoning. Especially to compete with the elite at 147.

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    Default Re: Anyone catch the Berto fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I worry about the fact that if I was managing Berto I would have kept him as a prospect for a few more fights. Sure he was handed a belt, but I don't think that he could beat any of the other WW title holders YET. I don't think he has one punch power, but he does have crisp punches that last until the later rounds which will by far and large will keep his KO% up.

    I think he should fight Luis Collazo as his mandatory as he is the highest ranked in the WBC. And it should be an interesting fight to see if Berto can handle someone that has definate slickness.
    He still is a prospect, winning a belt IMO nowadays doesn't mean your out of hte prospect realm. I think its when you've been a test worthy opponent that you step outside the prospect realm. I would prefer to see Berto fight a guy with a little more power(to force him to increase his defensive skills), and not a southpaw just yet. Right now Berto really realies on his jab, and a southpaw can totally negate that. Collazo is also really fast, and he has a great chin. I think Berto should fight a guy like Quintana before stepping in there with Collazo.

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