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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    this reminds me of most recently berto doing almost the same thing last night? did anyone else get that too?

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    the ref had no chioce to DQ him, if montel got back up jones wud of had 1-2 points taken of him, but becoz griffin got ko'd there was no chioce in the matter.

    question is was montel really ko'd or did he fake it?

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    I think so. I think Montell acted up a little bit.

    Anyway i think the loss did Jones no harm as he ko'd him in the rematch anyway.

    That devastating KO in the rematch probably did more to enhance Jones legacy than just a simple UD the first time round would have done.

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    If a loss was applied every time this occured MAB would be losing a few fro his record.
    As would Rocky Marciano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    If a loss was applied every time this occured MAB would be losing a few fro his record.
    As would Rocky Marciano.
    Yea In Marciano's famous KO of Walcott, didn't Walcott gone down on one knee after being hit by the right hand ?? then Marciano KO'ed him with a left hook while Walcott was still on one knee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    If a loss was applied every time this occured MAB would be losing a few fro his record.
    As would Rocky Marciano.
    Yea In Marciano's famous KO of Walcott, didn't Walcott gone down on one knee after being hit by the right hand ?? then Marciano KO'ed him with a left hook while Walcott was still on one knee.
    Well when Walcott went down there was no way he was getting up, he was out cold slumpoed against the ropres.
    But the hook put him face first into the canvas....Scary KO
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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    Montell faked it and RJJ was unjustly disqualified.

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDTUA View Post
    this reminds me of most recently berto doing almost the same thing last night? did anyone else get that too?
    I saw that a little differently. Jones saw he was down and made a conscious decision to hit him after. Berto just didn't pull back after what's-his-face fell to one knee. He was already throwing his punch when the guy fell.

    But Roy did deserve the DQ. And Roy did beat Tarver in their first match, whomever wrote that. Tarver won his rounds more convincingly, but that doesn't give you extra points; Roy won more rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAVIDTUA View Post
    this reminds me of most recently berto doing almost the same thing last night? did anyone else get that too?
    I saw that a little differently. Jones saw he was down and made a conscious decision to hit him after. Berto just didn't pull back after what's-his-face fell to one knee. He was already throwing his punch when the guy fell.

    But Roy did deserve the DQ. And Roy did beat Tarver in their first match, whomever wrote that. Tarver won his rounds more convincingly, but that doesn't give you extra points; Roy won more rounds.
    I actually didn't think Tarver vs Jones 1 was that close i had Jones a clear winner by 2 rounds or maybe 3 rounds, Jones clearly won the last two 2 rounds which gave him the nod for certain in my eyes.

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    Anyone remember Riddick Bowe Clocking Buster Mathis Jr. After he had taken a knee....Purley intentional and the commision,Mercante sr.& Larry hazzard huddled in the ring coming up with a ruling...they did not realize that the Microphone was on and caught conversation.Bowe was winning but should have been DQ'd Imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Anyone remember Riddick Bowe Clocking Buster Mathis Jr. After he had taken a knee....Purley intentional and the commision,Mercante sr.& Larry hazzard huddled in the ring coming up with a ruling...they did not realize that the Microphone was on and caught conversation.Bowe was winning but should have been DQ'd Imo.
    Yes i remember that funny you should mention that because Gil Clancy who commentated on Jones vs Griffin 1 mentioned that fight as well.

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    I hate when boxers hit while their opponents are down.
    Many times I've talked about this and how I feel about it.
    Wilfredo Gomez got away with this a lot during his career.

    The DQ on RJJ was OK on my books. So I would answer your question as yes he did deserve his 1st loss.

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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    like has been said - Griffin milked it but yes Jones did deserve it

    had he retired with just that one defeat though I believe he would still have been a man who retired unbeaten and that '1' would not have mattered.

    As it happens Tarver and Johnson came along and rendered it insignificant.
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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    Originally the result was Roy Jones winning via TKO. But they changed it to a DQ in the same night. Would have been better for Montell to lose that way. But changing it to a DQ just ended Montell's chances. and ultimately made Roy's legacy
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    Default Re: Did Roy Jones Jr Really Deserve His First Loss ??

    The worst I've seen as far as hitting someone when their down goes was Nigel Benn against Iran Barkley. Benn knocked Barkley down 3 times in round 1 and each time threw punches after Barkley went down.

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