this dude wants to train me

[saturday_kid]

I'm pretty new here and don't know what went on with this zelenoff guy, or am i raking up things that dont need bringing back up, if so sorry.

Also by the way to kid thunder fair play to you mate (and to anyone) who has the balls to step inbetween those ropes, like said in an above post your'e a proffesional boxer thats more than most people can say and is a dream for many people. Good luck in the future & keep us informed of how you do

[Youngblood]

A large part of why Andrew got so much flack is because he is/was associated with the likes of that goof Zelenoff. Charlie Zelenoff is merely a troll who happened to end up on a boxing board thinking he was hard. There are some really funny posts about it...and if ya have 100 + more posts you can even see where it all began a few years back right here on saddoboxing. Hilarious stuff.

So because of that we heard of someone we would never of known about, Andrew Hartley, a person who called Charlie on his many threats and as a result even helped Charlie get a licence and instead of still being keyboard warriors...they actually ended up in a ring in some place in Arkansas? We all got to see the fight, and we laughed, and we cheered, and ultimately what happened was Charlie was exposed for the fraud he was. Not only was he NOT hard, he was a total chicken shit who kept spitting out the gumshield every time he got tapped. (haha @ you Charlie )

Also though, we learned about Andrew. This person whom we never would have known. Never fought amateur. Never trained. Never had a trainer or any formal training, but yet had 14 professional fights. Alot of people cried farce and fraud and mockery, and I was also one of them.

I have since started to gain respect for Andrew. Certainly not for his skill and dedication to the sport, but for his reasons for doing it. The man has 6 children and fights for the few extra dollars it provides to help his family. And also, because he just likes stepping thru the ropes, and exchanging blows.

I don't think it is the right path to becoming a professional boxer, but I do think it is for the right reasons. So I hope very much that you take any kind of training you can find Andrew from wherever you can. And I hope you continue to train and give yourself and the sport more respect then you have gotten of late. You have a lot more from me lately and I thank you, for being humble and asking for it, and for trying.

And I wish Good Luck to you, sir.