Molitor-Caballero - Let's talk here...

[yvonne]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

[CFH]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

He lost once early in his career, but he's unbeaten since then. However, he's fought nobody of note. I don't really get the hype about Molitor not fighting him.

[yvonne]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

He lost once early in his career, but he's unbeaten since then. However, he's fought nobody of note. I don't really get the hype about Molitor not fighting him.

Why would'nt Molitor fight him?I think it would have been a really good fight!Two hard fighters!!!!

[CFH]

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

He lost once early in his career, but he's unbeaten since then. However, he's fought nobody of note. I don't really get the hype about Molitor not fighting him.

Why would'nt Molitor fight him?I think it would have been a really good fight!Two hard fighters!!!!

I don't remember why, I'll try and find some info.

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

[yvonne]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

Caballero is a much bigger threat than Conception. I'm hoping that if Molitor unifies he'll fight one of the other belt-holders or Marquez, but if I'm being honest I don't like his chances against Vasquez or Marquez, unless they've destroyed eachother, which is possible.

[CutMeMick]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Whatever the case was...

I also know as a fan alone that theres no money in Molitor-Concepcion.
Theres more money in a unification bout as we've come to learn.

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Whatever the case was...

I also know as a fan alone that theres no money in Molitor-Concepcion.
Theres more money in a unification bout as we've come to learn.

I can't wait for Molitor-Caballero. Do you think he'd have a shot in another unification against Lopez (provided he beat Caballero)?

[CutMeMick]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Agreed 100%
Concepcion still has work to do IMO.
Sometimes these kids go up the rankings so fast that they really haven't been tested then once they go into the ring with Worl Class they fall apart. Concepcions time will come just not now.

Not to be an ass or anything... But the kids name is Concepcion and not Conception...

[CutMeMick]

Well I'm just comingback to my senses just now...

I went on a 2 day B-Day celebration drinking hoopala with friends...
My B-Day was on the 22nd.
I turned the big 21 if anyone cares.

4 (1.75L) bottles of Jack Daniels were done and dusted between myself and 2 good friends of mine. We also tore up 2 bottles of Johhnie Walker.

We played some records, hes got boxes full of wax and we just pulled out record after record listening to "Madness" My house, "Bowie" Changes, "Bowie" Lets Dance, Elton John "Bennie & The Jets", Peter Schilling, New Order, Depech Mode, The Cure, The Smiths, Cuttin Crew, B-Movie.
He had enough records for us to be playing there until next week

Anyway...

Wow! I just saw the fight a while ago, Caballero came out gunz blazing. I think Caballero knew I thing that he did not want to let Molitor establish himself and CC did a great job at that he never let Molitor set himself. CC fought the perfect fight and that was his key to victory.

My next question is can CC continue this or will he have a lackluster follow up fight as he tends to do? He'll look good in 1 fight and then look like shit in the next one?

I think CC beats both Izzy and Rafa because I honestly think both guys are touched up already and are there for the taking.

All in all and top win for CC.
For Molitor he needs take his well deserved vacation and then comeback stronger then ever, the kids full of talent and it wasn't his night.

[OumaFan]

I've thought for a while that Caballero was underrated cause he doesn't look like a fighter, he's real awkward, and even just look at him he's 6'0 he's got the Oscar armpit shorts and he even added a knee brace.

I'm not sure I would say this was a surprise like some are, Caballero was the clearly more accomplished guy going in.

[CutMeMick]

I've thought for a while that Caballero was underrated cause he doesn't look like a fighter, he's real awkward, and even just look at him he's 6'0 he's got the Oscar armpit shorts and he even added a knee brace.

I'm not sure I would say this was a surprise like some are, Caballero was the clearly more accomplished guy going in.

Agreed, I'm not shocked at the win by CC.

But I surely thought Molitor would win and do better then what he showed.

[CFH]

Well I'm just comingback to my senses just now...

I went on a 2 day B-Day celebration drinking hoopala with friends...
My B-Day was on the 22nd.
I turned the big 21 if anyone cares.

4 (1.75L) bottles of Jack Daniels were done and dusted between myself and 2 good friends of mine. We also tore up 2 bottles of Johhnie Walker.

We played some records, hes got boxes full of wax and we just pulled out record after record listening to "Madness" My house, "Bowie" Changes, "Bowie" Lets Dance, Elton John "Bennie & The Jets", Peter Schilling, New Order, Depech Mode, The Cure, The Smiths, Cuttin Crew, B-Movie.
He had enough records for us to be playing there until next week

Anyway...

Wow! I just saw the fight a while ago, Caballero came out gunz blazing. I think Caballero knew I thing that he did not want to let Molitor establish himself and CC did a great job at that he never let Molitor set himself. CC fought the perfect fight and that was his key to victory.

My next question is can CC continue this or will he have a lackluster follow up fight as he tends to do? He'll look good in 1 fight and then look like shit in the next one?

I think CC beats both Izzy and Rafa because I honestly think both guys are touched up already and are there for the taking.

All in all and top win for CC.
For Molitor he needs take his well deserved vacation and then comeback stronger then ever, the kids full of talent and it wasn't his night.

The worst part about the fight for, aside from Molitor being outclassed, was that he showed a very questionable chin. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. I thought Molitor was clearly hurt, both to the body and to the head, by nearly every clean (and some not so clean) punch that Cab landed. That has me most concerned for his future.

[CutMeMick]

Well I'm just comingback to my senses just now...

I went on a 2 day B-Day celebration drinking hoopala with friends...
My B-Day was on the 22nd.
I turned the big 21 if anyone cares.

4 (1.75L) bottles of Jack Daniels were done and dusted between myself and 2 good friends of mine. We also tore up 2 bottles of Johhnie Walker.

We played some records, hes got boxes full of wax and we just pulled out record after record listening to "Madness" My house, "Bowie" Changes, "Bowie" Lets Dance, Elton John "Bennie & The Jets", Peter Schilling, New Order, Depech Mode, The Cure, The Smiths, Cuttin Crew, B-Movie.
He had enough records for us to be playing there until next week

Anyway...

Wow! I just saw the fight a while ago, Caballero came out gunz blazing. I think Caballero knew I thing that he did not want to let Molitor establish himself and CC did a great job at that he never let Molitor set himself. CC fought the perfect fight and that was his key to victory.

My next question is can CC continue this or will he have a lackluster follow up fight as he tends to do? He'll look good in 1 fight and then look like shit in the next one?

I think CC beats both Izzy and Rafa because I honestly think both guys are touched up already and are there for the taking.

All in all and top win for CC.
For Molitor he needs take his well deserved vacation and then comeback stronger then ever, the kids full of talent and it wasn't his night.

The worst part about the fight for, aside from Molitor being outclassed, was that he showed a very questionable chin. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. I thought Molitor was clearly hurt, both to the body and to the head, by nearly every clean (and some not so clean) punch that Cab landed. That has me most concerned for his future.

CCs a hard puncher and anyone that gets caught is certain to get hurt even stopped. I dont think Molitor has a questionable chin.

More then anything Molitor did not establish his game plan from the start which was get inside. Instead Molitor stayed at a distance where CC is most effective.