Molitor-Caballero - Let's talk here...

[yvonne]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

He lost once early in his career, but he's unbeaten since then. However, he's fought nobody of note. I don't really get the hype about Molitor not fighting him.

Why would'nt Molitor fight him?I think it would have been a really good fight!Two hard fighters!!!!

[CFH]

Conception is a powerful fighter no dought,he can dig!Whens the last he fought?Is he still unbeaten?

He lost once early in his career, but he's unbeaten since then. However, he's fought nobody of note. I don't really get the hype about Molitor not fighting him.

Why would'nt Molitor fight him?I think it would have been a really good fight!Two hard fighters!!!!

I don't remember why, I'll try and find some info.

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

[yvonne]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

Caballero is a much bigger threat than Conception. I'm hoping that if Molitor unifies he'll fight one of the other belt-holders or Marquez, but if I'm being honest I don't like his chances against Vasquez or Marquez, unless they've destroyed eachother, which is possible.

[yvonne]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

Caballero is a much bigger threat than Conception. I'm hoping that if Molitor unifies he'll fight one of the other belt-holders or Marquez, but if I'm being honest I don't like his chances against Vasquez or Marquez, unless they've destroyed eachother, which is possible.

Are you going to the fight?What channel is it boardcasting on,do you know?

[CFH]

Im sure Conception will be ranked by the IBF soon enough for the fight to happen.Maybe next year?Damm that would have been a mouth watering bout between them both!

Caballero is a much bigger threat than Conception. I'm hoping that if Molitor unifies he'll fight one of the other belt-holders or Marquez, but if I'm being honest I don't like his chances against Vasquez or Marquez, unless they've destroyed eachother, which is possible.

Are you going to the fight?What channel is it boardcasting on,do you know?

No, I'm not going. I'd love to, but the fight is in Ont. and I live in B.C., several thousand KM away. You know, if I can find a cheap way to get there I might consider checking it out. I've never actually seen a live fight before.

[CutMeMick]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Whatever the case was...

I also know as a fan alone that theres no money in Molitor-Concepcion.
Theres more money in a unification bout as we've come to learn.

[CFH]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Whatever the case was...

I also know as a fan alone that theres no money in Molitor-Concepcion.
Theres more money in a unification bout as we've come to learn.

I can't wait for Molitor-Caballero. Do you think he'd have a shot in another unification against Lopez (provided he beat Caballero)?

[CutMeMick]

Ok, from what I can tell, Molitor was offered a fight with Conception on the undercard of Pacquiao-Diaz on the 28th. Molitor took a vacation after his last title defense (he's been fighting ever few months), and I presume that this fight would've come too soon after his last fight and the subsequent vacation. Conception also is not ranked by the IBF, who's belt Molitor holds. I think Molitor would handle Conception though, he's got a big height advantage and Molitor is a great outside fighter.

Whatever the case was...

I also know as a fan alone that theres no money in Molitor-Concepcion.
Theres more money in a unification bout as we've come to learn.

I can't wait for Molitor-Caballero. Do you think he'd have a shot in another unification against Lopez (provided he beat Caballero)?

Crap!!
CFH,
I'm scared to say anything that goes against JuanMa....
Don't want him to make me eat crow again 'ya know.

But we'll see how things pan out. Most def. the DPDL win for JuanMa was huge. The only time I remember EVER seeing DPDL hurt was vs. Caballero yrs. ago...
Then JuanMa just batters him completely. Now that is fucking impressive.
People talk so much that DPDL was exposed and that DPDL was unskilled.
Well yeah, we all knew that I mean who didn't know DPDL could be outboxed?
What people needed to realize is the power that this kid JuanMa carries.

With that being said, I think this is your typical puncher vs. boxer fight.
Molitor is one of the more skilled guys in boxing today. Good movement, and he's a thinker hes always one step ahead of his opponents. It's for me to call right now might have to give it more thought.

[Mikkel_K]

An update to an old thread:
Unification in Canada!

November 21 at Casino Rama, broadcast live on Showtime and TSN.

[CutMeMick]

Honestly, I think Nglovu, Castillo, and Beltran were all much bigger threats than Conception.

Agreed 100%
Concepcion still has work to do IMO.
Sometimes these kids go up the rankings so fast that they really haven't been tested then once they go into the ring with Worl Class they fall apart. Concepcions time will come just not now.

Not to be an ass or anything... But the kids name is Concepcion and not Conception...

[CutMeMick]

Well I'm just comingback to my senses just now...

I went on a 2 day B-Day celebration drinking hoopala with friends...
My B-Day was on the 22nd.
I turned the big 21 if anyone cares.

4 (1.75L) bottles of Jack Daniels were done and dusted between myself and 2 good friends of mine. We also tore up 2 bottles of Johhnie Walker.

We played some records, hes got boxes full of wax and we just pulled out record after record listening to "Madness" My house, "Bowie" Changes, "Bowie" Lets Dance, Elton John "Bennie & The Jets", Peter Schilling, New Order, Depech Mode, The Cure, The Smiths, Cuttin Crew, B-Movie.
He had enough records for us to be playing there until next week

Anyway...

Wow! I just saw the fight a while ago, Caballero came out gunz blazing. I think Caballero knew I thing that he did not want to let Molitor establish himself and CC did a great job at that he never let Molitor set himself. CC fought the perfect fight and that was his key to victory.

My next question is can CC continue this or will he have a lackluster follow up fight as he tends to do? He'll look good in 1 fight and then look like shit in the next one?

I think CC beats both Izzy and Rafa because I honestly think both guys are touched up already and are there for the taking.

All in all and top win for CC.
For Molitor he needs take his well deserved vacation and then comeback stronger then ever, the kids full of talent and it wasn't his night.

[OumaFan]

I've thought for a while that Caballero was underrated cause he doesn't look like a fighter, he's real awkward, and even just look at him he's 6'0 he's got the Oscar armpit shorts and he even added a knee brace.

I'm not sure I would say this was a surprise like some are, Caballero was the clearly more accomplished guy going in.

[CutMeMick]

I've thought for a while that Caballero was underrated cause he doesn't look like a fighter, he's real awkward, and even just look at him he's 6'0 he's got the Oscar armpit shorts and he even added a knee brace.

I'm not sure I would say this was a surprise like some are, Caballero was the clearly more accomplished guy going in.

Agreed, I'm not shocked at the win by CC.

But I surely thought Molitor would win and do better then what he showed.