Enzo saying Pavlik fight will never happen. Pavlik does not deserve it.

[Violent Demise]

After Enzo witnessed Pavlik executed a one-way beating against Lockett,.. I don't think he would wanna see his son suffer the same fate.

No doubt that's it.

[Markusdarkus]

Lets get this straight Calzaghe is not afraid of Kelly Pavlik, Jeff Lacy was just as hyped and a genuine 168lb fighter.

He is just being greedy.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You're out of your tree, with all due respect. Both he and his father know that is the most dangerous fight out there... BAR NONE!

[Markusdarkus]

You're out of your tree, with all due respect. Both he and his father know that is the most dangerous fight out there... BAR NONE!

Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, Pavlik come foward ero he takes a beating. Joe is just after the money and he and Enzo are coming in with the most rediculas statements ive ever heard.

To say Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik is uneducated.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You're out of your tree, with all due respect. Both he and his father know that is the most dangerous fight out there... BAR NONE!

Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, Pavlik come foward ero he takes a beating. Joe is just after the money and he and Enzo are coming in with the most rediculas statements ive ever heard.

To say Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik is uneducated.

First of all I know exactly what I'm talking about... Calzaghe is trying to make the most money he can taking the least amount of risk...

End of story...

[Markusdarkus]

You're out of your tree, with all due respect. Both he and his father know that is the most dangerous fight out there... BAR NONE!

Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, Pavlik come foward ero he takes a beating. Joe is just after the money and he and Enzo are coming in with the most rediculas statements ive ever heard.

To say Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik is uneducated.

First of all I know exactly what I'm talking about... Calzaghe is trying to make the most money he can taking the least amount of risk...

End of story...

Risk has nothing to do with it, its ALL about the money.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, Pavlik come foward ero he takes a beating. Joe is just after the money and he and Enzo are coming in with the most rediculas statements ive ever heard.

To say Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik is uneducated.

First of all I know exactly what I'm talking about... Calzaghe is trying to make the most money he can taking the least amount of risk...

End of story...

Risk has nothing to do with it, its ALL about the money.

Ah, so Pavlik is no risk to Joe... Take some Neg Rep.

[ICB]

You're out of your tree, with all due respect. Both he and his father know that is the most dangerous fight out there... BAR NONE!

Pavlik is tailor made for Calzaghe, Pavlik come foward ero he takes a beating. Joe is just after the money and he and Enzo are coming in with the most rediculas statements ive ever heard.

To say Calzaghe is ducking Pavlik is uneducated.

I would say Pavlik is similar to Kessler but with more workrate and more power, one of the things that let Kessler down was his workrate, just something to consider there.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

I like joe and all, but have you ever notice how much he contradicts his own words in interviews over the year. One example: He states that Bernard Hoplkins is an all time great who is his hero, then after the fight he states in an interview that Bernard Hopkins is 'nothing'. He contradicts himself all the time.

[Markusdarkus]

I like joe and all, but have you ever notice how much he contradicts his own words in interviews over the year. One example: He states that Bernard Hoplkins is an all time great who is his hero, then after the fight he states in an interview that Bernard Hopkins is 'nothing'. He contradicts himself all the time.

I dont think he has ever called Hopkins his "Hero" a legend maybe.

The only thing Joe is doing is saying he will fight Jones when in his autobiography he clearly states he thinks Jones is shot.

[leftylee]

Calslappy is shit scared of Pavlik, that's pretty clear.

Enzo is one old bastard I cannot stand, he talks shit. The statement "If Haye goes 12 rounds with Enzo Macca he'll never box again" is a comic hall of famer

[eagle]

Lets get this straight Calzaghe is not afraid of Kelly Pavlik, Jeff Lacy was just as hyped and a genuine 168lb fighter.

He is just being greedy.

True Lacy was overhyped, but Pavlik beating a top guy in Taylor twice and destroying everyone else he has met points to the fact he is more substance than hype.

[Markusdarkus]

Lets get this straight Calzaghe is not afraid of Kelly Pavlik, Jeff Lacy was just as hyped and a genuine 168lb fighter.

He is just being greedy.

True Lacy was overhyped, but Pavlik beating a top guy in Taylor twice and destroying everyone else he has met points to the fact he is more substance than hype.

We didnt know that about Lacy until 1minute into the Calzaghe fight.

Just cast your mind back Lacy was an animal and huge favorate.

[Wacko3205]

Okey dokey...here goes.

For the better years of my die hard arm chair devotion to the sport I have followed & admired Roy Jones jr & Joe Calzaghe. I salivated at the possibilities of a Calzaghe Jones bout or Calzaghe Hopkins.

I got one of those...& I have a feeling that I'll be gettin the other one just around the corner.

While I have no complaints with that...I can honestly say that I do not want to see Pavlik face Calzaghe. Joe, IWHO, would make Kelly look a bit foolish. I like Pavlik...always have & always will...but Joe's the superior boxer here. He proved that against Kessler, Lacy, & Hopkins of late & he's been proving it for the better part of the past decade.

It's easy for everyone to hate on Joe because most have been discounting him for years & years & years...& now that Joe's finally come stateside...well...many of my fellow Yanks have had to eat their words.

Oh well.

Roy has had a career resurgence...no if's, ands, or buts about it. He came back from two devastating losses...knockout losses...& in the end...if you want to bitch & piss & moan about Joe & his choice of opponents...you should turn the cheek.

Roy's a lot more reputable opponent than Lockett...no matter what anyone says.

If Kelly Pavlik can have a pass over...why can't Joe?

Seriously.

That being said...Roy's no pass over & the fight might surprise some of you. I don't expect Roy to just lay down for Joe. Roy could shock the world...& there aint shit wrong with that.

As I said...a lot of this has to do with some ridiculous critique of Calzaghe. It just get's tiring.

Calzaghe beat Lacy, Kessler, & Hopkins.
Pavlik beat Taylor twice, Miranda, & Lockett.

Apples to apples...well...you keep spoon feeding yourselves all this biased bullshit you'll start tasting sour grapes.

Joe Calzaghe has earned his rights to be respected & he's paid his dues. Pavlik still has some ways to go. Again, I love Pavlik...but I have to agree with one thing that Enzo said...he's still got work to do.

[cpcompany]

What I cant understand is, at what point did fatha and son Calzaghe decide Pavlik wasnt deserving of a fight?
Joe certainly thought Pavlik was the ideal fight at one time because he publicly stated he wanted to fight Pavlik once he beat Hopkins.