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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    RJJ prime not old and decrepide
    Hopkins did win that fight so Hopkins.
    Hagler
    Pavlik
    there is almost too many to list.
    Greb , Robinson
    Ray Lenord
    Hearns.

    Leonard, hearns, Pavlik (lol), Hopkins?

    man you hate Joe Calzaghe.
    No... I just no the best fighter he ever fought was a 43 year old man who beat him. I forgot Toney. Pavlik would eat him up and shit him out. No Enzo is saying Pavlikm is not worthy......hahahaha.......but Peter Manfredo is? What a joke this guy is. And so are you.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    RJJ prime not old and decrepide
    Hopkins did win that fight so Hopkins.
    Hagler
    Pavlik
    there is almost too many to list.
    Greb , Robinson
    Ray Lenord
    Hearns.

    Leonard, hearns, Pavlik (lol), Hopkins?

    man you hate Joe Calzaghe.
    No... I just no the best fighter he ever fought was a 43 year old man who beat him. I forgot Toney. Pavlik would eat him up and shit him out. No Enzo is saying Pavlikm is not worthy......hahahaha.......but Peter Manfredo is? What a joke this guy is. And so are you.


    Lets see Pavlik beat Abrahams or Kessler, Pavlik is not in Calzaghes league.

    The old discredit a fighter because he beat a P4P fighter in a close fight, works everytime.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ds91 View Post

    Hopkins would get beat worse to be fair you could argue he won at 43, imagine the Hopkins that faced Glen Johnson, that Hopkins would dominate Calzaghe.

    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Oh please you compared Hopkins to Skelton thats how much you know on Hopkins, if your such a big Calzaghe fan you would realize Calzaghe has struggled in rough fights before with Salem, Bika, Reid, etc which Hopkins was a master of in his prime and he even broke Glen Johnson's will. A young Hopkins was a punching machine and still had great skills to go along with it, the old Hopkins lost purely because he didn't have the work rate or the stamina to fight for the full 12 rounds which wasn't the case with the younger Hopkins, i suggest you do some homework on a younger Hopkins and don't just base him off a few of his older fights.


    I have Hopkins career at home and he still doesnt beat Calzaghe the only version that had a chance was the version coming off his best B2B wins. People forget he took tarver to school and beat Winky in the two fights prior.

    And i said i find Skelton and Hopkins the worst fighters to watch they dont try and wion fights but mug and steal fights.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Joe has problems with the Straight Right... I have said this time and again, Gerald McClellan would have eaten him alive..Gerald was strong, quick and had a solid chin to go with very underrated technical ability... and Geralds Straightright hand put you to sleep period!!!

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by southakron314 View Post
    RJJ prime not old and decrepide
    Hopkins did win that fight so Hopkins.
    Hagler
    Pavlik
    there is almost too many to list.
    Greb , Robinson
    Ray Lenord
    Hearns.

    Leonard, hearns, Pavlik (lol), Hopkins?

    man you hate Joe Calzaghe.
    No... I just no the best fighter he ever fought was a 43 year old man who beat him. I forgot Toney. Pavlik would eat him up and shit him out. No Enzo is saying Pavlikm is not worthy......hahahaha.......but Peter Manfredo is? What a joke this guy is. And so are you.

    Calzaghe's past his prime but I'd say he'll still beat Pavlik, your sounding like a broken record with the Calzaghe bashing, kinda like a guy Northside who used to do the same. As for Pavlik would eat him up and shit him out, your making the guy out to be superman, he won a close fight in his last fight that could have gone either way, and the first fight he came within a whisker of been ko'your still bashing Calzaghe for not fighting Pavlik but I notice your man didn't take up the Kessler offer

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post


    Styles make fights, Hopkins would have opened up and been hit. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to let him lead whilst staying off the ropes. I think Taylor would be a tougher fight for Joe than Pavlik again styles.
    Oh please you compared Hopkins to Skelton thats how much you know on Hopkins, if your such a big Calzaghe fan you would realize Calzaghe has struggled in rough fights before with Salem, Bika, Reid, etc which Hopkins was a master of in his prime and he even broke Glen Johnson's will. A young Hopkins was a punching machine and still had great skills to go along with it, the old Hopkins lost purely because he didn't have the work rate or the stamina to fight for the full 12 rounds which wasn't the case with the younger Hopkins, i suggest you do some homework on a younger Hopkins and don't just base him off a few of his older fights.


    I have Hopkins career at home and he still doesnt beat Calzaghe the only version that had a chance was the version coming off his best B2B wins. People forget he took tarver to school and beat Winky in the two fights prior.

    And i said i find Skelton and Hopkins the worst fighters to watch they dont try and wion fights but mug and steal fights.
    are you kidding me? Hopkins would of beat joe decisively if he had the workrate to keep up with him but at 43 it just wasn't there and thats why the fight was close. A younger Hopkins would of threw more, landed more and would win a UD, and when you reply to this post actually reply with knowledge on why Calzaghe would beat a younger Hopkins.

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    Both Hopkins and Roy Jones of the late 90's early 2000's would have destroyed Calzaghe.Calzaghe for me is overrated his major threat in 45 fights was Kessler other than that he took an easy route he never chased the big names like Hopkins and Jones and so on when they were in there primes he wouldn't even rematch Robin Reid who many thought beat Calzaghe and lets have it right he was basically beat by a 43 year old Hopkins it was his closest fight ever.

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by porkypara View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    My list im not including really old boxers from the SRR's era.

    Mike McCallum
    Michael Nunn
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Herol Graham
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Watson
    Gerald McClellan

    Just a quick list.
    What did McClellan do at super middle?
    Its not what he did this is a bad style match up for Calzaghe fact, i really find it hard for Calzaghe to survive the Gman's onslaught early.
    The G mans biggest asset was his power.He was an ok boxer but he relyed on the power to get the job done.

    Calzaghe has a great chin so that takes away McClellans best chance of winning.

    How do you see McClellan winning this fight?
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    In 45 fights these are the best he has fought.

    Chris Eubank:
    Who came in at short notice had to lose 11lbs in 7 days Eubanks was past his best but still gave Calzaghe a good fight one of his toughest in fact but this did show us what Calzaghe was made of.

    Robin Reid:
    Who in my eyes beat him alot of people thought so as well he should have at least got a rematch.

    Omar Sheika:
    Lets have it right this was a guy who got beat by Tony Booth for god sake.

    Richie Woodhall:
    A good fighter won a WBC world title at super middle but he nearly got beat by Glenn Catley many thought he did get beat.Then he got beat by Markus Beyer and lost his world title.Woodhall was a good fighter but just good not outstanding.

    Charles Brewer:
    This guy lost twice to Sven Ottke he had 8 losses before he got to Calzaghe and Calzaghe had some rough times in this fight and he should have KO'd Brewer in my opinion for it to be a impressive win.

    Byron Mitchell:
    A fairly good puncher won a world title vs Frankie Liles TKO11 but then went on in his first defence and drew with Bruno girard then lost it in his 2nd defence in a rematch vs Gerard.In his fight before Calzaghe lost vs Sven Ottke so it was a safe bet for Calzaghe to win.Calzaghe got dropped heavy but came back to KO mitchell a good win.

    Jeff Lacy:
    IBF Super Middleweight champ but well overrated and overhyped.He had good power but relied on it he had struggled vs Omar Sheika so more reason for Calzaghe to fight him.Since his loss to Calzaghe Lacy has still failed to impress vs Tsypko and Manfredo so proves to a certain degree he was overhyped.

    Mikkel Kessler:
    39-0 a good solid fighter number 2 in the world WBC/WBA world champ.A good competetive fight hat off to Calzaghe for this win.

    Bernard Hopkins:
    43 year old former middleweight champ ranked number 1 at light heavy i think Hopkins won as do many others .

    I think calzaghe is overrated slightly i think people get caught up in the he's made 22 world title defences.yes he made 22 defences but went alot of easy routes to do it so could he beat a peak Hopkins or Jones or some of the other fighters alot of you have mentioned e.g G man,Toney and peak Eubank and so on the answer is NO!

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    Maybe your forgetting that Shieka was coming off a win over Glen Johnson and that Mitchell actually beat Ottke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Maybe your forgetting that Shieka was coming off a win over Glen Johnson and that Mitchell actually beat Ottke.
    I write all that and you give me that 1 an half lines THANKS

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    Default Re: What Past Boxers Could Have Beat Joe Calzaghe ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Maybe your forgetting that Shieka was coming off a win over Glen Johnson and that Mitchell actually beat Ottke.

    Joe has beaten th eyoung champs ( lacy and kess ) and the established veterans ( hopkins , eubank )

    Some haters will never be happy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Maybe your forgetting that Shieka was coming off a win over Glen Johnson and that Mitchell actually beat Ottke.
    I write all that and you give me that 1 an half lines THANKS


    You can question every fighters resume, Roy Jones fought cans after Toney stepped up lost, Pacquaio beat old Morales old Barerra and got a gift over Marques, Hopkins lost to the best two 160lb fighter he ever faced............... i could go on its all rubbish Calzaghes resume stacks up and at 36yo still going strong man needs a break.

    However i condenm his fight with Jones as its a mismatch of epic proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tysonbruno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Maybe your forgetting that Shieka was coming off a win over Glen Johnson and that Mitchell actually beat Ottke.
    I write all that and you give me that 1 an half lines THANKS


    You can question every fighters resume, Roy Jones fought cans after Toney stepped up lost, Pacquaio beat old Morales old Barerra and got a gift over Marques, Hopkins lost to the best two 160lb fighter he ever faced............... i could go on its all rubbish Calzaghes resume stacks up and at 36yo still going strong man needs a break.

    However i condenm his fight with Jones as its a mismatch of epic proportions.
    So do you think Calzaghe beats a peak Jones and Hopkins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    My list im not including really old boxers from the SRR's era.

    Mike McCallum
    Michael Nunn
    James Toney
    Roy Jones Jr
    Herol Graham
    Thomas Hearns
    Michael Watson
    Gerald McClellan

    Just a quick list.
    it is very simpel - NONE
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