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    Default Re: < Pac vs. Diaz - Free For ALL!! Talk, Pics, Vids and all >

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Impressive.

    But I ask the same question I asked about Miranda's impressive fight.

    What did this fight tell us about Pacquiao that we already didn't know?

    It wasn't a fight where we found out new things about Pacquiao

    However fights with Guzman, Casamayor Marquez etc and the rest of the lightweight fights out there CAN say. Personally I'd like to see him and Juan Diaz go at it but it would probably be a repeat of this
    What does this thread even mean Majesty? We found out his weight carries to 135 lbs and that he's capable of mixing it in the lightweight class. We found out he hasn't lost the hunger and continues to perform at the very top level, we found out his speed carries to 135 lbs and we found out that a potential mega fight with Ricky Hatton is far from an absurd fight as a lot of critics have hinted.

    I think we learned a lot about Manny, what else did you expect to see? That he's going to switch to being an orthadox fighter or that he was going to unveil his own version of the Philly Shell defense?

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    Default Re: < Pac vs. Diaz - Free For ALL!! Talk, Pics, Vids and all >

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Impressive.

    But I ask the same question I asked about Miranda's impressive fight.

    What did this fight tell us about Pacquiao that we already didn't know?

    It wasn't a fight where we found out new things about Pacquiao

    However fights with Guzman, Casamayor Marquez etc and the rest of the lightweight fights out there CAN say. Personally I'd like to see him and Juan Diaz go at it but it would probably be a repeat of this
    What does this thread even mean Majesty? We found out his weight carries to 135 lbs and that he's capable of mixing it in the lightweight class. We found out he hasn't lost the hunger and continues to perform at the very top level, we found out his speed carries to 135 lbs and we found out that a potential mega fight with Ricky Hatton is far from an absurd fight as a lot of critics have hinted.

    I think we learned a lot about Manny, what else did you expect to see? That he's going to switch to being an orthadox fighter or that he was going to unveil his own version of the Philly Shell defense?
    Bilbo!

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    Default Re: < Pac vs. Diaz - Free For ALL!! Talk, Pics, Vids and all >

    Just found this

    Francisco Lorenzo (33-4, 14 KOs), who had been down and was being battered, was ruled a disqualification winner against Humberto Soto at 2:43 of the fourth round after Soto was ruled by referee Joe Cortez to have hit him while he was down.

    They were fighting for an interim junior lightweight title, which was made available by the WBC because champion Pacquiao was moving up to challenge for a lightweight title in the main event. However, because of the controversial ending, the WBC elected not to award the interim title, which remains vacant.

    It was Soto's second crack at a 130-pound title and another disappointment. He lost a decision to Joan Guzman in November after being outboxed over the second half of the fight. But Soto, 28, had no such problems against Lorenzo.

    Soto (43-7-2, 27 KOs), 27, took control from the outset and was rocking Lorenzo, 36, of the Dominican Republic, with a steady stream of hard blows.

    But then confusion reigned in the fourth round. Lorenzo was bleeding from his nose, had gone down from a left uppercut and was being dominated.

    After the knockdown, Lorenzo was trying to grab Soto but Soto connected in the corner.

    Lorenzo, who had been outlanded 19-4 in the round, took a knee. But referee Joe Cortez didn't count, instead indicating that Soto had hit him while he was down.

    "He got disqualified because he got hit while he was down," Cortez. "That's a disqualification. I watched the replay to make sure that is what I saw."

    Replays indicated that Soto had indeed thrown a punch but that, at best, it grazed Lorenzo's head.

    "I don't understand. I didn't hit him when he was down. It was all glancing," Soto said. "I'm really surprised. I never imagined it would come to this. Luck has not been with me."

    While Soto was sent to a neutral corner, Lorenzo lay bleeding on the canvas with the doctor looking at him. Cortez conferred with Nevada commission executive director Keith Kizer and other commission officials. After several minutes, Cortez called off the fight and Lorenzo was given the victory.

    "It was a good stoppage because I was hit in back of the head while I was down," Lorenzo said.

    When he raised his hands, the crowd booed loudly.

    Soto had been mentioned as a possible opponent for Pacquiao in the fall. Now, perhaps, there will be a rematch with Lorenzo.

    "I don't know if he wants a rematch because in the rematch I would knock his head off," Soto said.



    Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.

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