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    Default Re: Pacquiao needs to step it up

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    huh guzman is not young.

    theres only been valero,soto, guzman pac hasn't face. noun of them would be better fights since 2006. plus guzman is not young his older than diaz, eric, mab, jmm. I think guzman would be pacs oldest oppenent
    Your right.

    Even more reason that Pac should have fought him. Guzman needs his chance, hasn't had a big fight. Fightwise, he's younger than JMM, Diaz, Erik, AND Mab.

    Pacquiao needs to step it up. It's getting to the point where his fights are not interesting.

    Brilliant post

    When you look at Pacs recent opponents, they all have summat in comm , they are either washed up or useless.

    He has never fought a good up and coming boxer so I cant see why he would start now when he can continue fooling alot of his Countrymen and getting paid to do it.
    So Marquez is either washed up or useless
    I believe JMM is going to beat Casamayor

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    Default Re: Pacquiao needs to step it up

    OK this is like a joke right. Hey I know David Diaz ain't exactly a hall of famer but he was a champion in yet another weight division for Paquiao. I for one am through with the idea of seeing him and Marquez go at it again. They were great fights but its time we moved on. Pacman is not even 30 yet. He still has some big fights comming up and he is doing great.

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    Pac didnt beat Marquez . He got gifts in both fights . Even a washed up Morales coming off a defeat to Barrera beat Pac .

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    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.
    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.
    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.


    Im just defending the Pac-Man i know beating Diaz isnt that great but it was his first fight at the weight and he fought a solid title holder. Again should Pacquaio clear up 135lbs he would become a 4 weight world champion, not just a 4 weight title holder.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao needs to step it up

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.
    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.
    I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.
    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.
    I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.


    I think Marques is as good as anyone p4p that Floyd has fought no doubt and Morales and Barerra slightly faded.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao needs to step it up

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Didnt Mayweather get a gift against Castillo and who did Mayweather beat for titles when he moved up?

    Gatti, Baldomir to name but two at least Diaz is in hisa prime.

    I see a lot of bad blood and i think it is Mayweather fans instigating it because Pacquiao is now the number 1 P4P fighter in the world.
    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.
    I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.
    Argue it then and I'll argue back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    There's a difference.

    Mayweather had a messed up shoulder and it was his first fight at Lightweight when he fought Castillo and then he came back in the rematch and beat Castillo clearly

    Pacquiao on the other hand has struggled with JMM twice and it can be made a case that he lost the second fight after improving as a fighter.

    But like I said, fights against people like Diaz won't answer any of our questions about Pacquiao. It answered what we already knew, he is a storm against people who stand in front of him and he has devastating power. But against someone like Marquez it seems he struggles. Now to answer if its just Marquez that has the formula or can the other lights of this division that can box have a chance as well?

    This is what fights with the likes of Guzman and Chris John will show about Pacquiao.
    I could argue that Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrerra and Eric Moralez are better fighters than anyone Mayweather ever faced and you would have a hard time trying to convince me otherwise.
    Argue it then and I'll argue back
    OK, I will bite.. Name me one fighter Mayweather faced better than Marquez.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao needs to step it up

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Pac didnt beat Marquez . He got gifts in both fights . Even a washed up Morales coming off a defeat to Barrera beat Pac .
    This is going to be a rehash:
    PAC-JMM1= Pac was suppose to win if not for Judge Bert Clements scoring a 10-7 instead of the 10-6 for 3 knockdowns.
    Pac-JMM2= Pac got it already in round 10 even if he lost both 11th and 12th round. YES! That 3rd round knockdown matters and those instances were PAC rocked JMM.
    EM-PAC1= NO excuses but it was avenged in a career ruining way.

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